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New Wave-Pump Technology Hits the Water

February 22, 2007   |   19 Comments

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"Going forward, we're seeking actual ocean environments where we can place a wave-farm test field involving 14 to 200 SEADOG wave pumps."

-- Mark A. Thomas, Independent Natural Resources Inc., CEO
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1 of 19
February 22, 2007
I wonder if anyone has considered placing these units along the 2340 mile long Mississippi River. I drains 41% of the water from 48 states and drops 1475 ft to the Gulf of Mexico. Waterflow is between 200,000 to 700,000 cu. ft. /sec. Since the water is already fresh, the efficiency of the units should be very good to bring the water quality up to drinking level. The holding ponds would help provide water conservation and the power generation would pay for the systems in short order.
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2 of 19
February 22, 2007
Very interesting. It can serve multiple purposes and it also has the potential to produce electricity even when the waves are not high enough.
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3 of 19
February 22, 2007
There is a similar device to this that is also in testing. It's called waveberg although it seems to be farther behind than the SEADOG. More information can be found at http://www.waveberg.com/

I think this type of wave technology has merit and I really hope we can get some of these prototypes into production soon.
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4 of 19
February 23, 2007
Let's do it. I will be happy to follow up on some of these wave energy generators and and all. I am the energy conservation fellow for Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) part of the Navy. I am actively looking for alternative Energy, and will take some risks. We have 11 bases on the sea coast that we might use, three in the Gulf. Contact kevin.rawson@navy.mil. No spam - we have filters.
Power generators from the Mississippi - Hard to do with the Big MUDDY!
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5 of 19
February 23, 2007
Pure Water

"Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink"
(Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner by Coldridge)

Water wave production is a technique sorely needed,
To make fresh water with the waves where water's been depleted,
This innovation should excel where water's needed most,
In countries close to oceans that are bordering the coast,
We need this innovation where our water's been polluted,
Pure water's needed for our health for this wave power's suited,
Essentially a natural gift we now bring to production,
Wave to water methods knock we bid its introduction,
Too long we've sent the plumes of carbon gases to the air,
Created global warming now its consequences share Climatic changes leading to environmental harm,
We see the coming danger, wave power answers this alarm.

adrianakau@aol.com
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6 of 19
February 23, 2007
I would not pooh pooh any idea but it is up to us to police our own sector to prevent people from being taken in with foolish ideas. They give the whole field a bad name and make it that much more difficult to present an idea to an already sckeptical public. One thing is for sure though, we all benefit at the end of the day through our applied innovation. It just seems to me that the cards are stacked against us when one considers that the oil companies are getting 14 billion and the coal companies are getting subsides to create fake clean coal- does the sulfer and the heavy metals turn into pixi dust when it is scrubbed out? Not really, but they say that it is good for the water. It turns it a nice shade of black when peptol bismal is added. The fish in the ocean and lakes really like it too because all of them end up with matching sores.
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7 of 19
February 23, 2007
Its wonderful to see our scientists and engineers co-operating with each other to come up with a viable replacement for oil: Many new discoveries will be made along the way by trial and error but in the end the results will benefit all of mankind: Energy is our life-line to the future and the competition to find the most cost effective methods of energy production can only result in spin offs to other areas of inovation: I applaud these companies who put their money where their mouths are: They deserve success:
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8 of 19
February 23, 2007
This just seems like another attempt by the radically innovative United States invention community to stick their imperialistic noses into the rest of the world and have money flow back to the United States. Unfortunately the rest of the world will benefit from this invention and technology. Rats. Once again technology triumphs in the West and the rest of the world benefits. First the light bulb and now ocean energy and coupled with desalination. Someone just invented a high tech pencil. Putting an eraser on the end of a piece of lead. The brainchild of simplicity enhanced. Keep up the good work.
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9 of 19
February 23, 2007
I wonder if this area used for these farms could be shared with wind farms. Hey, as long as we're planting a few pumps why not mix in a few turbines and maximize the energy output while minimizing the space used and labor involved.
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10 of 19
February 23, 2007
Very interesting, could probably help in Southern California's water problems. However, I wonder how the cost of one square mile of SEADOG compares with the cost of one square mile of solar-thermal troughs (STT), or the abount of STT needed to produce an equivalent amount of power?
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11 of 19
February 23, 2007
Maurice Turgeon you would not use the sea dog for the Mississippi, you would use a device that could capture the flow of the Mississippi by converting kinetic energy (flow of the river) to potential energy (the upward and downwards movement of the buoyancy block) and the kinectic energy of the water moving out of an impoundment area. www.fieldstoneenergy.com A device exists to extact the energy out of the Mississippi and useing an outfall pipe at the mouth of the river. There are 325 thousand gallons of water a second that drain into the Gulf. This makes sense. Pumping water up the face of a cliff does not-too much energy loss.
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12 of 19
February 23, 2007
PUMP a 100 foot colum of water up hill. I do not care the diameter of the size of the pipe. What do you call back pressure. That is why we test these things in real time enviornments. How much does water weigh 64 pounds a cubic foot. That means in a 2X2X 3.141597= approx. 16 square inches x 100 feet ( to make it up to the cliff face). = too much back pressue to move this water even with a small diamenter pipe.
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13 of 19
February 23, 2007
Using data from the web site, f I assume that it could be hbuilt and emplaced for 1$/lb then it would cost $17000. Using their output numbers if the total capitol and running cost were $1700/year for a 350 watt output then the power cost is around $0.05 per kwh. Is that reasonable?
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14 of 19
February 24, 2007
Seapower Pacific has been testing similar designs and has a commercial prototype which has been under successful operation for 2 years.

Their website:
http://www.seapowerpacific.com
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15 of 19
July 7, 2007
<p>The above is not complete without inclusion of renewable energy wave pumps as summarized below and detailed at website <a href="http://www.renewableenergypumps.com/" target="_blank">www.renewableenergypumps.com</a></p><p>Two systems are&nbsp;proposed.&nbsp; They excel all others. </p><ol style="margin-top: 0cm"><li>Wave Air Pump - WAP: Compresses air and feed it into the air inlet of a turbine, add fuel as needed to maintain turbine output irrespective of wave heights.</li><li>Wave Water Pump - WWP: Lifts a small quantity of water to a high head and feed it to a hydro-turbine to produce power, or compressed air to feed another turbine and act as a WAP.</li></ol><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A set of pumps up to ten may be installed in line with the incoming waves and a mile wide to extract most of its energy.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The proposed systems can generate electric power at a cost less than 2 Cents per kilowatt-hour.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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16 of 19
August 6, 2008
Brian Meano,

What exactly have you invented lately that I can criticize? Have you forsaken the last 18 years of your life working vacation and weekend free 16-20 hour days developing a product with the hope that you will have an outcome instramental to the bettering of the lives of those in nations currently poverty stricken and polluted (of which I might add is not a promising source of revenue)?

Please get over yourself and be usefull. encouragement might be nice or, that is if you are one of any intelligence maybe a helpfull idea, the rock came before the spearhead!
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17 of 19
November 8, 2008
What a level of audiosincrecy to read the above. Keep it Simple Smarty.
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18 of 19
I'm excitedly waiting all the changes in technology and availability of vehicles in the near future!!!
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19 of 19
August 26, 2009
I wonder if this area used for these farms could be shared with wind farms. Hey, as long as we're planting a few pumps why not mix in a few turbines and maximize the energy output while minimizing the space used and labor involved.
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