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Low Carbon Standard to "Fuel" Renewable Energy Market

By Sara Parker, Staff Writer
January 11, 2007   |   10 Comments
World's first greenhouse gas standard for transportation fuels will spark research into alternatives to oil such as cellulosic ethanol.

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"With a low carbon fuel standard, Californians can expect to see more renewable fuels like ethanol and biodiesel at their local gas station and, in time, can look forward to driving a new a plug-in hybrid or hydrogen fuel cell vehicle."

-- Environment California
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1 of 10
January 11, 2007
Marketing pollution credits for profit however well intended, presently profits some electric utilities like AEP more than selling electricity. In order to drive up the value of pollution credits, the large Corp & Utility that own those pollution credits have profit incentive to, themselves, pollute up to the limit to exhaust the credits, purchase and shut down profitable sawmills to claim the pollution credits, and profit from the increased dollars marketing pollution credits to the real energy providers. The cost is hidden in the "fuel escalation clause" on the personal and small business monthly utility bill.
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2 of 10
January 11, 2007
it would be good to discuss this with the people who fear that ethanol et al bio-fuels will deplete the corn supply and read what they have to say? Jane HOltz Kay
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3 of 10
January 11, 2007
Good on Arnold. It's good to see CA actually doing something. Hopefully more states will follow suit whether the fed does or not.
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4 of 10
January 12, 2007
Actually the amount of energy associated with ethanol has been way over hyped. There may be 30% less energy, but that does not necessarily mean 30% less mileage. Many folks are experiencing a loss of 8-12%.

There are other alternative fuels that are under developement right now. Butanol for one. It is another alcohol that has a similar energy to gasoline.
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5 of 10
January 12, 2007
Carbon credits? I don't wanta hear about anymore carbon credits.

On January 2nd, the Office of Surface Mining let the Hopi and Dine Navajo people on Big Mountain/Black Mesa know that 1) the mine would reopen (Peabody Coal's mine), 2) the plant would reopen (Southern California Edison was majority owner till it closed), and 3) the slurry line between the mine and the plant would be reopened and rebuilt.

But Southern California Edison has little reason to buy the Mojave plant back. Why should they? They've got CARBON CREDITS. Why should they? outhern California Edison will also get to sell the plant, and no one is worrying about limiting carbon emissions on the Navajo Reservation.


---Ann Garrison, San Francisco, CA
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6 of 10
January 12, 2007
I am a bit dense on this issue since my understanding is that all present liquid fuels have carbon. I don't see much good in talking about the carbon to hydrogen ratio in the fuel unless this is an attempt to push propane, butane or natural gas running motors because the gas molecules have the best hydrogen to oxygen ratio. If ethanol is being compared, then we must look also at the energy output which is only about 68% of that in gasoline.

I don't see how you can just have a carbon standard fuel without taking into consideration the energy output per unit.

Why have a carbon standard rating if you must use much more volume of a low carbon fuel to get the same milage but less volume as a higher carbon fuel. Would it not make more sense to make a carbon gas per unit volume fuel vs milage comparison?

Anyone, please feel free to correct me if I have misunderstood the purpose of this standard. I cannot see how its implementation will be of any real benefit.

adrianakau@aol.com
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7 of 10
January 14, 2007
"renewable fuels like ethanol and biodiesel" are often mentioned - what about biogas that can be produced from many organic residues and from fuel crops

the second product can be valuable fertiliser if high solid digestion is used in modern facilities
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8 of 10
January 15, 2007
Ann, i am sympathedic to your point of view. but the more they have to pay for carbon credits, the more research and development happens. the only way a capitalist society is going to get off of black energy is to make it hurt @ the pump and carbon credits are a decent way to accomplish that end.
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9 of 10
January 17, 2007
the whole idea of carbon credits seems self defeating. it will only allow polution to continue. but there will
be fewer doing it. mabey that is the point. as for corn as fuel, i was hopeing that it was the stalks and not the part you would eat that would be going into the fuel production (am i right? please correct me if i am wrong)besides there are also other plants that can be used i have never met anyone who eats switchgrass.
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10 of 10
January 28, 2007
Adrian, carbon intensity compares the mass of carbon in the fuel to the amount of energy in the fuel, in this article written as "grams per BTU", where BTUs are British Thermal Units, a measure of energy. So the relative energy densities (energy/volume) of different fuels are not important.
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