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China to Tap Sea Water for Heating and Cooling

By Yingling Liu, Worldwatch Institute
September 22, 2006   |   18 Comments

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The second and third phases will supply neighboring residential areas as well, expanding the coverage to two million square meters.
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1 of 18
September 24, 2006
I think we should keep a close eye on the success of this project. Our coastal cities could benefit from the use of this technology. During the winter our heating bills would be reduced and during the summer, would prevent overload demands on our grid system.

I believe that energy problems in China are acute and that their present coal burning is causing serious respiratory problems as well as continuing harmful climatic impact. The fact that they are making efforts to seek solutions is encouraging. We should be making similar efforts.

adrianakau@aol.com
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2 of 18
September 27, 2006
The French commissioned a small (5MW?) turboalternator off the West coast of Africa about 1946. It worked for about 3 years before being destroyed in a storm
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3 of 18
September 27, 2006
Hawaii's built a business park around this idea.

http://www.nelha.org/index.asp

So far their most successfull tennant is not using it for heating or cooling, they're de-salinating & bottling the deep sea water for human consumption!

http://www.hawaiideepseawater.com/
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4 of 18
September 27, 2006
Geoff. I have written to Yingling Liu at the Worldwatch Institute, author of the article to clarify his statement:

"By using ***seawater-derived*** heating and cooling"

Heating or cooling with sea water does not necessarily mean that the sea water is actually pumped through the pipes. It could mean that there is a heat exchanger system used to transfer the energy from sea water to fresh water before pumping. This is the most likely senerio. Otherwise the cost of installation for structures might be prohibatively high.

adrianakau@aol.com
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5 of 18
September 27, 2006
Before we get too excited, let's remember that seawater is corrosive to most metals, so we'll either need lots of stainless steel and some complementary, non-corrosive weld technology, or improved R&D to develop new metals or synthethics that can provide very efficient heat transfer properties at relatively low cost. Plastics tend to be 'insulative' in their properties and rely on petroleum as a production feedstock. Specialized metal alloys are generally highly consumptive of energy for their production and may involve the use of rare metals that are hard to obtain, or coatings that are toxic to handle during the production phase. None of this is 'easy', or 'cheap.'
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6 of 18
September 27, 2006
Would large central conduit systems be built to pump cold water from coastal facilities through air conditioning sytems inland? It will be interesting to see the designs of such systems. Perhaps the Big Dig in Boston could be upgraded to accomplish the same objectives.
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7 of 18
September 28, 2006
Sounds like a huge heat pump to me. A local health clinic did this using a small pond. They've had problems since it was installed years ago. Have heat pumps become more reliable recently, or is China risking a few cold days during the winter?
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8 of 18
September 28, 2006
I'm wondering if they are using a closed loop sytem, like a Geo thermal heat pump. Circulating the water thru the sea to change state that would be really interesting to see. The advantage's of using heat pumps, is astronomical for zone control.
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9 of 18
September 29, 2006
Yes, it does sound like a closed loop heat pump--the article is just too vague.

To the editor: You have an interesting site with an educated readership. Can you please add more engineering/scientific detail, when possible, to the articles? I think such details would be of interest to just about all readers: scientists, investors, environmentalists, etc.

Thanks, Marco Ramos
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10 of 18
September 29, 2006
Yes, it does sound like a closed loop heat pump--the article is just too vague.

To the editor: You have an interesting site with an educated readership. Can you please add more engineering/scientific detail, when possible, to the articles? I think such details would be of interest to just about all readers: scientists, investors, environmentalists, etc.

Thanks, Marco Ramos
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11 of 18
September 29, 2006
OTEC

Chemical ammonia, pressured, turning turbines, producing power,
Condensed back by icy waters from the depths of the ocean,
A thousand, thousand years resting and waiting for the hour,
To rise like a phantom released and set in motion.

adrianakau@aol.com
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12 of 18
September 29, 2006
Ocean Engineering & Energy Systems, is planning to build two OTEC electric power conversion plants. One will be a 0.8 Mw net output plant in Kona, Hawaii and the other will be a 13 Mw (8.4 Mw net output?) plant at some other location for the military.

Vice President Stephen Oney said "In 50 years the majority of the energy in the world will be from this source. It's the only one big enough to replace oil."

I don't know if Oney's prediction will hold true because I believe that geothermal and other renewables need to be carefully evaluated as time passes. OTEC technology is certainly becoming more attractive.

adrianakau@aol.com
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13 of 18
October 10, 2006
With Land based Ground sorce heat pumps you are limited to temp. differentials of about 52F. With the sea based heat pump you could go down very deep and use very cold water or up near the surface where the temp was much warmer. This sounds reasonal to me although I am not a professional.
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14 of 18
October 20, 2006
Dalian, an important port in China, has been selected to demonstrate water-source heat pump projects. another large-scale seawater source heat pump with an estimated 68MW heating load and 76MW cooling load plant capacity is also under construction.
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15 of 18
October 20, 2006
the first and second phase of the project will use sewage as heat source and use seawater as cooling water. the third phase will use seawater heat pump using seawater as heat source and sink.
the project is renewable energy demonstration project in China iwhich has been identified as a premier state energy-efficient project in 2006
If you want to know more ,can contact me my e-mail :lizhenn4014@yahoo.com.cn
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16 of 18
November 19, 2006
Yingling Liu may be reached at worldwatch.org, Washington DC at phone # 202 452 1999. Her e-mail is:

yliu@worldwatch.org

adrianakau@aol.com
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17 of 18
January 12, 2007
I think that China must take more advantage of the ocean than just for heating and cooling. Waves and ocean currents can produce vast amounts of energy and OTEC can be used to produce both electricity as well as pure drinking water. The ocean is a relatively untapped energy resource just waiting to be exploited and we in the US presently seem as far behind in doing so as China.

adrianakau@aol.com
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18 of 18
July 23, 2008
Don't know what technology they applied locally? The seawater temperature in winter is as low as 2 degrees celcius, do they use centrifugal compressor machines for heating? What would be the system COP then? Seawater source is a good thing, but whether it is energy effecient enough as a source for heating is still questionable?

Another concern is large scale application of unproven technology would cause unforseen technical and economic problems if it is driven by political tasks of the local government.

Who is the project developer, investor and operator?

Could anybody furnish in the latest status? I am curious how things are going now?

Give me a ring if you are interested to discuss.

Cheers!
Wenqing Huang
+86-13801046682, wenqingh@yahoo.cn
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