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DOE Report Backs Cape Wind Power Proposal

October 3, 2005   |   6 Comments

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"Most of the total potential offshore wind resources exist relatively close to major urban load centers, where high energy costs prevail and where opportunities for wind development on land are limited. This is especially true in the densely populated Northeast, where nearly one-fifth of that national population lives on less than 2% of the total land area..."

-- Framework
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October 4, 2005
This story should be titled, "GE-sponsored study finds huge need for GE products." This framework is a self-rationalizing business projection, not an energy policy.
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2 of 6
October 5, 2005
Thank you El Rucio:

I was thrilled at this report.

I have looked to wind power as a low cost way to generate electricity for the electrolytic production of hydrogen for motor vehicles.

My dream has been to retrofit the over 100 million automobiles we have in this country to hydrogen instead of gasoline or diesel.

At the current costs of electricity produced by wind power, you can generate an amount of hydrogen with the energy content of gasoline for less money than the cost of the gasoline itself.

Could you tell me, what are the inaccuracies in this report?

This is extremely important. I want to get all of the 100 million cars on our roads converted to hydrogen in the next two years. It is critical that we have a source of hydrogen available at a cost that is less than the cost of gasoline or diesel.

It is critically important that we have accurate cost information.


Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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3 of 6
October 6, 2005
100 million cars converted to hydrogen?? Is that in US alone or worldwide?? If it's in just in US, I don't see how that would happen for a long time... How much does it cost to convert a car to hydrogen? Who is going to pay for it, and how? If you can really do what you are attempting to do, than I support you compleatly, but from what I know about hydrogen, it is not that any beter than Biodiesel from algae, and thermal depolymerized feuels from recycled organic and petrolium products that would otherwise go to landfill. I think that hydrogen should be used to compliment such alternative feuels, but I'm don't think that it should be our main feuel until we are getting all of our regular electricity from clean, renewable sources.
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4 of 6
October 8, 2005
(I apologize for the multiple copies of my reply above. My computer was having some problems. The result was the multiple copies of my reply)

With respect to how you retrofit an automobile, and what it costs, I recommend H2 Nation magazine as an excellent source.

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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5 of 6
October 8, 2005
Thank you, Nate:

I agree that because we as a nation lack the political will to do this, it will take much longer, however, if we had the political will to do this it would be possible because all of the equipment needed is already in commercial production. All you would need to do is ramp up production.

With respect to biodiesel, a gasoline will not run on biodiesel. Possibly some of the cracking methods used in refinining gasoline could be used to crack biodiesel into gasoline, but to my knowledge that is not being done on a commercial scale. I do not know what research would be required or how long it would take.

With respect to who pays: If you can consistently provide hydrogen at a cost that is significantly less than the cost of gasoline, people will pay to retrofit their cars themselves.
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6 of 6
October 11, 2005
The critical thing is to act on this report and start meeting energy needs from clean, indigenous resources with stable long term costs. The market is best equipped to decide whether that energy should be consumed by cars, homes, offices or factories. In any case, it will displace fossil generated power and that is what matters.

Thanks to El Rucio for pointing out that GE has a vested interest. Given his obvious desire to ensure fairness and transparency, I look forward to his report on the vested interests of the opponents of off-shore wind power.
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