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Energy Lessons from Rita and Katrina

By Bill Prindle and Ken Bossong
September 26, 2005   |   17 Comments

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The devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina, beyond its current tragic effects, is a postcard from the future on the increasing intensity we can expect from such storms as global warming increases ocean temperatures.

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17 Reader Comments
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1 of 17
September 26, 2005
This article demonstrates the importance of building up our supply of electricity generated by wind power.

We have large tracts of land that could be producing electricity through the use of wind power. Currently that windpower is going to waste.

The electricity generated could be used to produce hydrogen for automobiles. Current internal combustion engines can be easily and inexpensively retrofitted to run on hydrogen instead of gasoline or diesel. The cost of hydrogen generated with electricity produced by wind power is very competitive with the cost of gasoline and diesel for the same energy content.

This could dramatically reduce our consumption of gasoline and diesel oil in the next few years!

This would not only reduce the pressure on our refinery capacity, but it would also dramatically reduce the amount of greenhouse gases going into the atmosphere.

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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2 of 17
September 26, 2005
"Supply side economics may not be the answer to our long range problems", but the lack of refinery capacity in this country is a serious problem. As pointed out by Katrina/Rita. we are 10 years into a 20 yr hurricane cycle, a few more hits like these and we won't have any economic base to build from. Increasing our supply of biodiesel, methanol, PV, Wind and solar thermal sources of energy is a long term goal which will be accelerated by its economic advantages but it should not be forced upon the american people at the expense of our economy. we have enough shale oil in this country to make the Saudi's and Canada look like paupers. But we must be allowed to access it and refine it.
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3 of 17
September 27, 2005
To Robert Preston:

Thank you for your comments. What do you think of using wind power to produce hydrogen for use as a motor fuel?

The cost for the same energy content of hydrogen produced is about the same as the cost of gasoline or diesel. Gasoline and diesel engines can easily and inexpensively be retrofitted to run on hydrogen.

Hydrogen can be produced on site electrolytically from electricity from the grid. This eleiminates the transportation problem. You can buy equipment to produce hydrogen electrolytically for your home, to refuel your car at home. Hydrogen can also be produced electrolytically at any gasoline station. This would eleiminate the refueling challenge.

What are your thoughts on that topic?

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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4 of 17
September 27, 2005
Policy can help improve supply and output/btu but I do not believe in having a "mandatory target for an overall national reduction in the level of oil consumption". Price affects supply and demand. Bottom line is we might spend more money talking on the cell phone while driving than burning gas. A gallon of gas is cheap, just try pushing your car for 20 miles.
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5 of 17
September 28, 2005
I strongly support the microgrid system. The combination of solar, wind, and geothermal energy generators in any emergency would provide local communities with sufficient amount of electrical energy to communicate and save life.
This option is also important from a strategy/military point of view. Imagine an accident or intentional sabotage act against the national grid. This little community care system would rescue community infrastructure and secure continuity of local and communication systems. That is the solution to avoid future repetition of Louisiana state case.
There is no time for postponing application of that system. The selection of the generation will be up to the energy professionals who would assess a local condition and decide what system is best for a particular area.
Zdzislaw Bochynski
New York
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6 of 17
September 28, 2005
Thank you, Reeves:

With respect to the demand problem, there will always be a demand for motor fuel, no matter how much education we provide to people. We have been educating people for years with very limited results.

We need to shift that demand from gasoline and diesel to some form of renewable energy. To accomplish that we need to provide renewable energy at a cost that is competitive with gasoline and diesel.

Right now we have a large excess of potential wind power that is going to waste. One of the best things that we can do right now is convert large numbers of vehicles that are currently burning gasoline and diesel to hydrogen produced by electricity from windpower.

This will dramatically reduce the amount of greenhouse gases emitted to the atmosphere, reduce our dependance on foreign oil and reduce the need for more refinery capacity.


Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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7 of 17
September 28, 2005
As we have an environmentally responsible waste to energy pyrolysis technology, I am naturally going to favour converting Katrinas and Ritas debris into energy in the form of charcoal, bio-oil and biogas. Not only will this supply the US with a sustainable energy source, it will greatly reduce GHG emissions. To change the path of Global warming will take some time, and wont happen in our lifetime (I'm 60) but hopefully our kids and grandkids will be OK
Regards
John Flottvik
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8 of 17
September 28, 2005
We're not facing a supply problem here. We're facing a DEMAND problem. Throwing more supply channels into the mix is not going to solve the issue that we are running out of resources to power our way of life as some respondents seem to think. We cannot provide enough energy through renewables right now (and some argue ever) to supply our power hunger. Why spend trillions to change the energy regime from one energy carrier to another when millions would suffice in a public education campaign to curb our rampant fossil appetite? I'm surprised that in this crowd all I ever here about is "more supply" and nothing about unchecked demand generated by an excess of supply. I've lost faith that government intervention will solve these problems. Real change will happen at a local level.
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9 of 17
September 28, 2005
A great step towards reducing our oil consumption and working towards an energy efficient society would come in reducing the government subsidies of fossil fuels. RE technologies and implementation do require 'incentives' and 'rebates' because the consumer is paying the full costs of those technologies. Switching the subsidy from Non-RE to RE would have little affect on govt budgets but a big impact on consumer behaviour.
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10 of 17
September 28, 2005
By just doing this, we could make a huge reduction in our gasoline and diesel usage in the next two years. Government can get this started and done much faster than private enterprise.

This would make a huge positive impact on our environment and our quality of life!

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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11 of 17
September 28, 2005
Thank you, Allen:

Actually I think this is an area where the government could have a very large impact.

If wind turbines were installed on all government owned land, and the electricity produced was sold at cost to produce hydrogen for motor fuel use, you could cut gasoline and diesel use in half in the United States.

Currently that wind power is just going to waste. It is a huge energy resource. The cost of production of the electricity to produce an amount of hydrogen with an energy content equal to one gallon of gasoline is approximately $2.00!

Existing outomobiles can be retrofitted to run on both hydrogen and gasoline when hydrogen is not available. The government could help with that. Hydrogen can be produced on site at existing gasoline stations using electricity from the grid. The hydrogen does not even need to be transported!
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12 of 17
September 28, 2005
Government is not going to solve the problem (to much reliance on non-renewable energy). It is, always has been, and always will be, a function of individuals making choices. Buy a fuel efficient car, bring efficiency into you house, buy renewable energy. These are the choices. Once a massive people movement starts making these choices - the marketplace will solve the problem.
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13 of 17
September 29, 2005
Thank you, Tricia:

Yes, Solar thermal could be used to dramatically reduce the demand for natural gas. If soalr thermal were installed on all of the roofs of single family homes to heat water and help heat those homes, we could reduce the demand for natural gas by approximately 1/3.

The combination of solar thermal to heat homes, and wind to generate hydrogen for use as motor fuel would result in dramatic decreases in the use of fossil fuels. All of this could be accomplished in a very short time because the equipment required is already out of the research lab and in production.

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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14 of 17
September 29, 2005
The largest energy source for the USA, and most parts of the habitable world, is the sun. Solar thermal generation uses that energy source to provide heat, that comprises approximately 70% of a domestic dwelling's need for energy. What is more, solar thermal is far more efficient at producing that heat than solar PV or wind generation is at producing electricity, which then loses further efficiency in creating heat.
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15 of 17
September 29, 2005
Charles,

I am heartened by your awareness and mention of a now-or-nearly economic wind/electrolysis/internal-combustion chain. I believe it is important to have some "existence proof" that avoiding immense adjustment is at least energetically and technologically possible without requiring scientific breakthroughs or large extrapolations over price. (Traditionally it has been claimed or suggested that nuclear is that proof.)... In terms of balance in discussion and opportunities for conservation, there are enough issues we can hope will balance -- say growth in renewables, growth in cleaner non-renewables, possible declines in fossile fuel production, and reduction or diminished growth in demand -- for it to be forgivable I suspect if not every discussion covers every facet. Then again, if in political contexts both conservation and robustness-of-infrastructure were to be consistently ignored, that might be unforgivable.
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16 of 17
October 2, 2005
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17 of 17
October 20, 2005
Both hurricanes Rita and Katrina should be a wake up call to everyone to stop relying on oil. We have many alternate energy sources that the government should start thinking about implementing. In the long run these energy sources (solar, wind,etc) will help us out a lot more than the continued use of oil, financially as well as environmentally. With global warming increasing we can only assume that more storms like these are on the horizon and until we do something about them they will not stop. By switching to different energy sources we would decrese emissions of greenhouse gasses and maybe helping get the planet on the track to recovery.
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