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Don't Blame Dems For Dreadful Energy Bill

By David Morris
July 25, 2005   |   13 Comments

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"Those who actually read the energy bills, however, will quickly realize we've been had."

- David Morris, RE Insider

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13 Reader Comments
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1 of 13
July 25, 2005
When Jeffords defected and the Democrats ran the Senate, Bingaman included a provision in the DEMOCRATIC energy bill that paid BP a few million to run a natural gas pipeline down from Alaska. It isn't the party, it's the pork - both parties agree with it in principle but squabble over are the recipients. If you don't like pork, then stop supporting it even if that means sacrificing *your* favorite pork programs.

We should get rid of the Energy Department, the Ag Dept because they defend the status quo (like PUHCA) and the corporations making money on it, like ADM and your local power monopoly. Imagine if your local electric company had to compete with a windfarm or PV co-op.

As far as The Depression, remember that FDR got the REA and TVA passed. Those two steps killed a nascent renewable (wind) energy source while subsidizing inefficient rural lifestyles and building dams.
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2 of 13
July 25, 2005
While your comments about the House Democrats, particularly Congressmen Dingell and Markey, who have fought valiantly for PUHCA, are correct, the Democrats in the Senate sold PUHCA out. They gave FERC a few additional crumbs of merger jurisdiction to justify killing the 70-year old protections of PUHCA. Once huge oligopolies control all the utilities, they will have no interest in renewables.
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3 of 13
With respect to natural gas usage:

Solar thermal water heaters on the roof tops of all buildings would drastically reduce the need for natural gas to heat water and heat the buildings.

The cost of solar thermal is competitive with natural gas. Solar thermal is easy and inexpensive to add to existing buildings. Solar thermal collectors can also be built over parking lots at relatively low cost.

The reduction in the demand for natural gas will result in price reductions for natural gas. There will also be little need for LNG storage sites for imported natural gas.

I recommend:

Solar thermal installations on the rooftops of all buildings, residential and commercial to dramatically reduce the need for natural gas to heat water and heat the buildings.

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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4 of 13
Wind energy can be used to produce hydrogen at a cost competitive with gasoline and diesel today!

Existing gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines can be retrofitted to run on hydrogen at a cost of less than $10,000 per vehicle. You do not need to wait for improvements and cost reductions in fuel cell technology.

Existing gasoline stations can add hydrogen to the gasoline, diesel and propane vehicle fuels they now offer. You do not need to build new specialized fueling stations.


I recommend:

Retrofit existing vehicles to run on hydrogen, use wind energy to produce the hydrogen, and you dramatically reduce our dependence on imported oil.

You can do that today. You do not need to wait 10 or 20 years from now.

Let's get going! Do it now!

Thank you,
Charles Butterfield
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5 of 13
July 26, 2005
The US doesn't need a thrd party, it needs a second party.
While the Democrats in Congress cannot be blamed for all the crap in the energy bill, it is only because so much of the negotiations have been done in secret, avoiding input or oversight from non-supportive members and the public.
Jim Duncan
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6 of 13
July 26, 2005
Looking at the voting pattern of most congressional Democrats versus most Republicans, there is a clear line in the sand with the Democrats overwhelmingly favoring policies more sympathetic to efficiency and renewables. In that regard, David's analysis is correct. However, even if the Democrats had been able to incorporate all of their major recommendations, the end result would still be a bill that does not sufficiently alter the nation's energy policies. The U.S. needs to embark on a path that drastically reduces greenhouse gas emissions (e.g., 80% by mid-century) while phasing out nuclear power and most energy imports. Few Democratic proposals would do more than make baby steps in those directions. So while the Republicans, in the main, are advancing energy policies that are dangerous to the environment, public health, the economy, and national security, the Democrats are only putting forth alternatives that - while significantly better - are still completely inadequate.
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7 of 13
July 27, 2005
Solar Investment credit valid after December 31, 2005! What will this do for business over the next 5-6 months?
Stall it.
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8 of 13
July 27, 2005
The roots of the road to a cleaner energy future lie far deeper than political wars in the U.S. And that's a good thing. The more focus each of us places on what works, the more positive neighborhood attention Renewable Eergy attracts. Everybody on the planet is deeply affected by oil addiction. But by removing some personal energy from fighting and expending that personal energy on strengthening healthy, already-available alternatives, we begin to change the world one day at a time. Things really change when each person makes a healthier choice about how to spend their personal energy each day. Our Republican and Democrat neighbors DO respond positively to cheaper, cleaner renewable energy usage. I see our current energy climate as a combination of the 70's bumper sticker: "If the people will lead, the leaders will follow" and today's "Show me the money". "Act locally, change globally" is a magnet for gaining support at the neighbordhood level where the REAL power lies.
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9 of 13
July 28, 2005
What we really need is a simple and comprehensive NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY PORTFOLIO without pork barrel incentives and detailed technical requirements (which just encourage lobbyists and pork barelling).

All we need to say is that all utilities need to supply 'X" percent of their energy by "Y" years from renewables and make these realistice and achievable. Clean coal should also be included. That is all government need do. No money, pork barreling, etc.. Just provide the incentive and get out of the way.

As an aside, it is interesting to note that a lot of anaerobic digesters for large farms are now being designed to just flare off the biogas rather than use it because no one wants it contrary to all the "hand wringing" in the press. A real disgrace. A renewables bill could be putting this energy to use as we speak. Let's put politics aside and do something practical!
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10 of 13
July 28, 2005
I agree that the revewables bill does not address any of the issues but the article and most of the responses just "parrot" the left wing diatribe against Bush with no suggestions for improvement other than silly talk of conservation, a sure "loser"! You have to produce your way out of the issue you can't "save" your way out of the problem. WHAT DID CLINTON AND GORE (the supposed enviornmental guru) DO THE PREVIOUS 8 YEARS IN OFFICE IF WE JUST WANT TO THROW STONES!? Sort of the pot calling the kettle black.

Let's do something with biomass, coal, etc.. all of which are here and able, rather than blathering on about Hydrogen whose time will come but currently is a net energy consumer with no distribution system.

Let's put aside politics, roll up our sleeves, take the lead from the politicians (who don't know their upside from their backside re the technical alternatives) and DO SOMETHING POSITIVE!
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11 of 13
Reply to Wayne Bostick:

Hydrogen is not a net energy consumer. Hydrogen is a very efficient way to store electrical energy until you need it.

Electricity generated by wind power can be used to produce hydrogen electrolytically from water. The equipment to produce hydrogen electrolytically is available now, you can buy it off the shelf. The equipment can be located in exisitng gasoline stations to generate hydrogen on site. The hydrogen can be compressed and stored in tanks for later use to fuel vehicles or for any other use requiring energy.

The cost, even without subsidies, is comparable with gasoline and diesel fuels for the same energy content.

Existing gasoline and diesel motor vehicles can be retrofitted to run on hydrogen at a cost of less than $10,000 per vehicle with equipment that is currently available off the shelf.

Thank you,
charles Butterfield
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12 of 13
July 29, 2005
It is such a shame that this forum promotes the agenda of a political party rather than advocating the issues.
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13 of 13
August 3, 2005
Reply to Charles Butterfield:

With all due respect, I do not believe you have calculated all the costs and evaluated the practicality of hydrogen in the current enviornment. Take a look at just the capital cost to generate hydrogen using wind turbines, compress it, and store it. Then take into account the cost to modify engines and store it on board a vechicle, safely, and then do it in quantities and with a distribution system to allow more than "around the block" travel.

As I originally stated, hydrogen will have a role, but it is not for mass transit in the short or medium term.
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