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Florida Purchases Distributed Gen Fuel Cell Units

June 27, 2005   |   5 Comments

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"These state-of-the-art fuel cell systems use existing, proven technologies to deliver reliable backup power in case of a service interruption."

- DEP Deputy Secretary for Regulatory Programs and Energy Allan Bedwell
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June 27, 2005
>>Hydrogen does not have to be produced by nuclear power either.

Right. Not if it gets started happening now.
So far, the press and media hasn't addressed this issue. It appears to come freely and magically to them. Like from a well.

boB
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Reply to Bob Gudgel:

I do not know where they are getting the hydrogen, however, hydrogen is an excellent way to store electrical energy generated by wind power. The stored hydrogen can then be used to produce electricity when it is needed.

Hydrogen does not have to be produced from fossil fuels such as natural gas. Hydrogen does not have to be produced by nuclear power either.
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June 27, 2005
But where are they getting the Hydrogen from ??? Natural gas ? That would not be safeguarding "the nation's natural resources", would it ?

My fear is that most hydrogen will be eventually coming through Nuclear power means.

boB
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June 28, 2005
This is an older news item. The announcement was made almost two weeks ago.

The 5 kilowatt hydrogen-fueled GenCore fuel cell systems will be integrated with uninterruptible power supply equipment to provide backup power to DEP offices throughout the state of Florida.

Currently mopst Hydrogen is proiduced from Natural Gas, through a catalytic process, requireing little energy imput, so there is a net savings on the amount of polution produced due to the efficency of the Fuel Cell. Twice that of Internal Compustion Engines many times that of Turbines.

A general reading ot the available literature, on the WEB, leads me to believe that the concensus view is that it will take Nuclear power to produce the volume of hydrogen necessary to replace Gasoline as the primary fuel for transportation.
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June 28, 2005
Excellent comments and insight. I have no doubt that fuel cells will be a viable energy source in the future but they are not yet ready for "prime time":

Cost is astronomical compared to recips and turbines.

H2 is a net energy consumer at present (takes more energy to produce than you get from it).

Hydrogen is produced primarily from natural gas or other petroleum derived fuels so, again, the result is a net loss in efficiency.

Fuel cells can't "black start" (come on by themselves in emergency situations). If they are running through rectifiers, motor load and high harmonic loads are potential problems.

I don't want to sound completely negative but I also hate to see these kinds of energy alternatives fail because of bad experiences with costs and products becauses of unrealistic expectations created by press hype. Let's invest in pratical alternatives!
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