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Hydrogen Production Gets a Shock from Bacteria

April 28, 2005   |   16 Comments

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"Basically, we use the same microbial fuel cell we developed to clean wastewater and produce electricity. However, to produce hydrogen, we keep oxygen out of the MFC and add a small amount of power into the system."

- Bruce Logan, Kappe Professor of Environmental Engineering at Penn State
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1 of 16
April 28, 2005
Very Cool. Since College I've been vocal in the need for H2 production for fuel cell use. Efficient production of the gas has always been an issue.

If we could get the feds to contribute a tenth of the money we're spending in the middle east, research like this would produce clean fuel/energy independance.

Why aren't developments like this been reported in the mainstream media?! All I hear about are $10b subsidies to oil companies...

Andrew
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2 of 16
April 28, 2005
Nature has already solved all our problems that we're facing, it's called Evolution. Hopefully we'll stop destroying the Earth before we get rid of novel genes that can cure cancers (currently about 30+% of all new drugs come from plants) and solve energy problems.

As people here know, there is no one solution to replace oil, but there are a myriad of solutions that will need to be implemented. Perhaps these bacteria could provide enough hydrogen for fuel cell power plants that could be used as backups to Wind farms.
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3 of 16
April 29, 2005
Perhaps when we have a U.S. Congress and a White House that are NOT bought and paid for by Big Oil, this country can finally move forward to achieve energy independence. There is no question that this country could be energy self-sufficient within the near future if we had the national will. All that is required are leaders who have the economic and security interests of the United States as their first priority, instead of protecting the profits of ExxonMobil and Chevron/Texaco.
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4 of 16
May 3, 2005
This is great, but what are you going to do with the carbon dioxide that is also a by product of this process?? I thought that carbon dioxide was a bad actor which is the main contributoer to the "green house" effect??? And thats another reason those working on hydrogen generation using the reforamtion process are not contributing very much towards turning our economy into a hydrogen economy.
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5 of 16
May 3, 2005
Carbon dioxide as a by-product?
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6 of 16
May 4, 2005
Trees & plants enjoy CO2. The yield of CO2 can be reduced by planting more trees, or simply allocating more land for vegetation growth.
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7 of 16
May 5, 2005
Regarding CO2 by-product, from Dr. Logan's website:

"Hydrogen production in fuel cells does not increase CO2 emissions only when the hydrogen is produced from renewable resources, such as water or biomass sources such as high-sugar crops. Because growing these crops captures CO2 in the form of biomass, carbon release during hydrogen production will not produce a net increase in global atmospheric CO2."

And note that much of this refuse is going to be produced anyway, for human consumption, or wild in nature, so why not convert it. THe CO2 comes from the rotting biomass's of the world anyway, besides the methanes, etc.
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8 of 16
May 5, 2005
Actually, plants is a natural environment have a balance of both generation and consumption of CO2. The head of the Brazilian Environmental Agency (or whatever they call it) has confirmed this.

So, unfortunately, we humans must push "nature" to do what we want, or it will not clean-up aditional CO2. OK with me, but realize it is not natural.
By the way the forests near Rio were planted by their king long ago, and their never has been a jungle near the Venezuelan border, unlike what one of the TV programs indicated. Man can benefit the world.
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9 of 16
May 8, 2005
Good news, or recap of the nenws I read
months ago. Organic waste in an Theromo-
philic anaerobic digester is what interests
me. The pure methane (CH4) has more
H per molecule than water and waste heat
may be applied in steam reformation of it
into Hydrogen. Wastewater treatment in
urban areas and animal feedlots with other
agricultural waste may be feedstock.
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10 of 16
May 17, 2005
Very interesting news, specially nowday when the price of petroleum is going up so fast. Is this already working?
Laura Acosta
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11 of 16
May 22, 2005
It's about time that we finally start using our waist to fuel our word, that does nothing but make waist how much more efficent and resorcefull of an idea. It's the best thing to happen and may be the end to most of our energy problems. mayI say (waist not want not) welcome to the new world.
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12 of 16
May 28, 2005
great stuff.
I have tried to get a H2 group going in Auckland NZ but no interest.
I have built a H2 generator using electricity with a catylitic burner, currently almost ready to start testing as have problems with power supply.
keep up the good work.
regards john Mcmanus.
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13 of 16
May 31, 2005
I already use hydrogen with a lot of waste
fuels ... get on the band wagon real soon.
Alcohol for one type, burns real clean.
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14 of 16
June 2, 2005
I concur Hydrogen must become the fuel of the future, however water vapor, as clean as it can be, could become a pollutant in sufficient quantities.
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15 of 16
June 4, 2005
As I've said on many a discussion board--as long as there's poop, there's an unlimited source of microbial hydrogen sulfide. And that's not even counting the methane. Fuel development = waste treatment. Can't beat that.
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16 of 16
March 21, 2008
<p>So if I replace the front seat of my VW bus with a toilit and the glove box with&nbsp;a deep fat frier, I will be part of&nbsp;a perpetual motion, hybrid regtech-rotary-electric engine, running both bio-diesel and bacterial generated hydrogen and&nbsp;Millions will be saved?&nbsp;&nbsp; :)~&nbsp; WHEW!&nbsp; I knew we could do it... and with such style!</p><p><a href="http://www.regtech.com/Radmax_Technology/Prototype_Engine/" target="_blank">http://www.regtech.com/Radmax_Technology/Prototype_Engine/</a>&nbsp;- yes</p><p><a href="http://www.go-ev.com/images/002_09_WarP_11_Sales_Sheet.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.go-ev.com/images/002_09_WarP_11_Sales_Sheet.pdf</a>&nbsp; -yes</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_fryer" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_fryer</a>&nbsp; -maybe</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet</a>&nbsp; -not exactly</p><p>See you all in hell!</p>
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