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Cleaner Fuel Vehicles Saving You Money in America

By Tai W. Robinson
April 22, 2005   |   11 Comments

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"Both renewable and non-renewable forms of hydrogen come with many different names to describe them. "

- Tai W. Robinson, RE Insider

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1 of 11
April 26, 2005
In the midwest ethanol is being produced from corn and mixed with 15% gasoline making a certified fuel called E85. It seems to me that if I could run my Honda hybrid vehicle which gets twice the milage of my older Mercedes gasoline car on E85 my consumption of crude oil would be cut to about 10% of my current usage. Also the CO2 being emitted from my exhaust would be absorbed locally by all the plants that grow here and receive sunlight. In Canada Shell just bought 70% of a company with a patented process for enzyme reduction of cellulose to ethanol. The process is three times as energy efficient at the corn to ethanol process. www.iogen.ca
This sounds like perpetual motion. Sunlight falling on America from coast to coast and people driving anywhere they want?
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2 of 11
April 26, 2005
"When hydrogen is produced through electrolysis of water using renewable, or solar, electricity, we get what I call "free-range" hydrogen."
Just noting that renewable hydrogen can be produced from any renewable energy source, not just solar. This will be a boon to all renewables as hydrogen from electrolysis becomes cost-competitive. Areas far from transmission lines but near transportation routes will be able to convert renewable energy resources (biomass, geothermal, hydropower, ocean, solar and wind) to electricity to produce renewable hydrogen by electrolysis of water and transport it to markets -- greatly increasing the value of renewable resources in remote regions.
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3 of 11
April 26, 2005
Tai - I really liked your article - very good overview of the many viable options to gas powered transportation.

You mentioned the place of electric vehicles as a bridge to fuel cell powered vehicles. Could you give your views on whether hybrid vehicles also could provide a bridge to this goal. It is true that today's hybrids are designed to run only on gasoline, but some experiementers are modifying them to allow them to be charged from electric mains with larger batteries installed. There is the possibility that car manufacturers will see this as a future enhancement for their hybrids.

- Tony Close
Close Technology Group, Inc.
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4 of 11
April 27, 2005
Good article. Comments on the comments:-
Tony: yes, IC/electric hybrids are also a bridge to fuel cells in transportation apps because imho their batteries/ supercapacitors and control systems will be a key part of any FC vehicle: the max power needed by cars etc will be far too expensive if only from FCs, and without electrical storage, regenerative braking efficiencies etc aren't achievable. IE, these new vehicles will be FC/battery hybrids, and today's IC/el hybrids are proving up these new systems.
Anna: transport power, not H2; Gabriel's right: proximity!
Bill: cellulose-to-ethanol (iogen et al) includes URBAN cellulose (MSW): we can now run our cars on our garbage (save corn for pigs, not for fuel), and make the fuel where it will be consumed: metropolises, where the people are. Now that's proximity principle AND recycling AND energy independence -- TODAY.
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5 of 11
April 27, 2005
Unless these fuels can be produced with non polluting means, ie solar, wind, etc, and they can me produced at the end users location to eliminate transportation costs & pollution, and not require a new infrastrucure to be built for dispensing and storing these fuels, then they will be viable. There is a great amount of waste & inefficiency with fuels when they are produced at a central location, then distributed and dispensed at other locations. It seems to me if you can produce your own fuel (power) at home or business where it is used, then you gain a whole lot of efficiency. I use solar electricity at home, even to charge my electric vehicle which is used to do 75% of my driving. If going more than 50 miles round trip, I jump in my hybrid. Its works beautifully! I think we need to promote decentralization.
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6 of 11
April 28, 2005
Tai, Most CNG comes from natural gas wells not (as stated in the article) from oil wells and coal mines.
Is anyone using CNG in the new hybrids?
Jack Brannon
Denver, Co
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7 of 11
April 28, 2005
thanks for the info i need to know if there is any way of runninga 1.5 hp petrol engine two wheeler on any bio fuel.
thanks
s k raghu
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8 of 11
April 28, 2005
Many are living that remember America as an energy independent nation, & a creditor, not a borrowing, nation. What's missing is the comprehensive rail matrix, including the Interurban electric railway network that shadowed the trunk "Mains". See ASPO&G (peakoil.net) newsletter 42, article 374. Obsession with the private wheels is OK, as long as attention includes the Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform- railways, renewable linked. See 1838 "Post Roads" concept.
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9 of 11
April 29, 2005
I would like permission to post this article on our website.

Terrific information!

www.HomeEnergySystemsInc.com

Jim@HomeEnergySystemsInc.com
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10 of 11
May 2, 2005
A kilo of hydrogen has almost exactly as many BTU's as a gallon of gasoline. However, when hydrogen is burned in an internal combustion engine (H2ICE), you can expect roughly twice as many miles per kilo as you would get miles per gallon.

This statement doesn't make sense. How can you go farther with the same engine and the same BTU's?
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11 of 11
May 10, 2005
Burning hydrogen has mechanical and thermal advantages. Thermal efficency is increased to about 47% right now and mechanicla advantage is greatly increased by retarding the timing of ignition allowing all the force from the explosion to go into the downward movement of the piston. Hydrogen: cleaner, cheaper, local and more efficent
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