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Reader Response: 2005 State of the Union Speech

February 3, 2005   |   18 Comments

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1 of 18
February 3, 2005
A vision that does not recognize root causes and only treats the symptoms is short sighted. Raising standards and codes to ensure conservation should be a first step in a national energy policy. Doubling CAFE requirements on all vehicle production, enforcing Energy Star ratings on all new products and buildings would significantly reduce oil/gas imports while creating many jobs and assist in the transition to true sustainable energy sources. Conserve first then convert to renewable energy! A win-win policy.
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2 of 18
February 3, 2005
President's Bush vision on energy is obviously the coal/nuclear/oil industry of energy for the future. This is no surprice coming from an ultra-conservative, former oil buissiness man. As simple as that.
Under his so-called vision, there is no solar or wind technologies playing an important role. It is us the consumers who must and will achieve the real renewable energy objectives for economic and environmental reasons. For now, in my opinion, the United States is the Sleepy Renewable Energy Giant. High energy prices will awake him.
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3 of 18
February 3, 2005
Considering the cost externalities of the methodologies proposed by the Administration, perhaps a review of non-neoclassical economics implications and consideration of entropy would be in order for the current administration. We should examine the overall societal structure with a consideration to future generations and long-term sustainability. This is not likely to happen when concepts such as rapture and armageddon are accepted as near-future events, although "no one will no the time". Basically, as has been demonstrated time and time again, party now pay later. The carrying capacity of any boat, plane or planet is limited, and should be considered.
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4 of 18
February 3, 2005
In the next 40 years, the US population will double and energy use will double to quadruple (depending on efficiency). Meanwhile China is expected to increase their energy consumption by a factor of 10. The price of all tradable fuel is going to go through the roof. Low cost energy has been a driving force for our economy for 100 years.

We must ensure that we can reduce the effect of the increase in tradable fuel drastically and quickly. Therefore, we should be investing heavily in all forms of energy production and conservation, including nuclear and clean coal (both of which have large supplies domestically and internationally) and especially in no-fuel technologies, like solar and wind.

Unlike fossil fuels, nuclear waste does not get released into the air, water, or soil so we can safely hold onto it for years until we're ready to deal with it the right way.
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5 of 18
February 4, 2005
Nuclear plants today produce 20% of the electricity we use in the US. Multiply their output by five (by constructing lots of new plants) and you can displace every other source of electricity. What would happen if you multiplied all the renewables by five?

Nuclear could stop a lot of CO2 going into the atmosphere right now, buying some time to convert to renewables. Nuclear waste is dangerous, but atmospheric CO2 concentrations are starting to look dangerous too.

As for "clean coal", as long as those plants keep running (not too long, I hope), they might as well run as clean as possible.
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6 of 18
February 4, 2005
There are only so many resources to go around. If all are spent on things like nukes, there will be none left for RE. That’s clearly the administration plan.

To have millions of rooftops covered with PVs and thousands of small farms producing biodiesel is not what this administration wants. A public that is aware of renewable energy and energy conservation options is the last thing this administration wants. The notion of having a healthy decentralized, dependable, clean, renewable energy system that provides quality jobs and keeps multiple billions circulating within the United States is a notion the current administration desperately desires to squash.

But the administration is predictably too smart to squash renewable energy outright. They will instead smile and say nice things, while deliberately doing all within their power to starve and choke off every aspect of renewable energy. At least they are predictable and consistent.
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7 of 18
February 7, 2005
Bush's Energy program is based on political input not fact. He ignores the fact we will leave dangerous nuclear waste to the future, has to my knowledge, never admitted that Global Warming exists as a result of burning fossil fuel, does not acknowledge any environmental stewardship as a duty and is an Oil man first and foremost. After living in Colorado & Wyoming, seeing first hand the damage done by both the process of extraction, roads, erosion and carelessness let alone the permanent radiation left in certain locations... Energy planning by the Oil/Gas/Coal and Nuclear industries has resulted in our current social, economic, environmental and world political situation. In a word, just say NO.
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8 of 18
February 8, 2005
Bush's energy policy is designed to prop up a fossil fuel-based economy that is increasingly threatened by dwindling supplies, rising prices, and a twitchy global economy. Bush's policy effectly dumps currently unsolved problems such as nuclear waste and climate change on future generations, and betting with no certainty whatsoever that they can adapt or find solutions. This is patently irresponsible, and definitely NOT the mark of an intelligent society. Ironically, intelligent, practical are avaiable on every hand, but intelligent politicians are nowhere to be found.
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9 of 18
February 9, 2005
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AIRLINERS DESTROY
EVERY NUCLEAR PLANT IN THE U.S.? HOW ABOUT MANY MICRO SOLAR POWERED
{PHOTOVOLTAIC ELECTRIC PRODUCING} PLANTS LOCATED ALL OVER THE U.S. NOT AS MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE REQUIRED. LETS PUT THE FREE BACK INTO FREEDOM. GO RENEWABLE ANY CHANCE WE
GET.
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10 of 18
February 9, 2005
Also consider this. There is a rule out there that basically sets the price of a kilowatt of electricity. Manufacturers are allowed to tack on costs, but within limitations. How can a kilowatt of electricity produced hydraulically, possibly be as expensive as a coal fired plant? Both plants require maintenance, but only one requires mining, shipping, filtering, and storage costs. Government regulated prices. Now plug nuclear plants into that line, and you can see who pays for them. Those that allow these more expensive systems to come on line. You and me, even if we are using hydraulically manufactured power. That is why 'they' do not want us generating our own rooftop electricity. They cannot use us to financially prop up their own money making schemes. Social responsibility has been forgotten in the name of the almighty buck. Democracy depends on social responsibility, not the dollar.
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11 of 18
February 9, 2005
What is the real costs of multiplying the nuclear supply of electricity by 5? Including the damage from global warming due to CO2 emmisions during the building stages and the storage of the radioactive wastes. Decommisioning costs? What is the real costs of multplying the renewable energy supply of electricity by 50? Including the damage due to CO2 emmisions during the building stages? What is the ratio of jobs created by each path? Where do we get the raw materials for each path? Where is the wealth created by each path gained? By the few already wealthy or spread over a larger economic groups? If eletricity cost increase of the nuclear path above the renewable path costs why go with nuclear?
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12 of 18
February 9, 2005
Interesting view Sun, but you are suffering from delusions of grandeur. I am a printer, and not ashamed of my title. Even less so if my father and grandfather were printers. How do you get the impression that 'oil man' was name calling? Unless that is YOUR point of view. Yes, they will follow the money, but there is no such thing as a 'simple politician', by any way shape or form. There are only 'simple' voters!
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13 of 18
February 9, 2005
Lets get off the name calling ("oil Man") and fully understand that he is simply a politition. As such, they will ALWAYS follow the money. Period.
Clinton did the same thing, and so will the next president.
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14 of 18
February 9, 2005
Yes, we can embrace nuclear energy. However the true price always seems to be ignored by the proponents. Nuclear waste is traditionally abandoned and left for gov cleanup, as with most industrial wastes. If you follow the tax dollar back to the source, you will find nuclear is the most expensive energy source there is. And safekeeping nuclear waste is a 44,000 year job. We can only hope our posterity can come up with a reasonable, safe, cheap solution. Our children probably will not be ancestor worshipers by any means. Unless of course they are as 'dense' as us! Lets not forget also, President or not, he is a member of an oil family. Renewables make him choke on his mint julep! Supply and demand, the golden rule of the wealthy.
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15 of 18
February 9, 2005
Let me say this one more time: "Ain't no such thing as clean coal!"
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16 of 18
February 10, 2005
Uranium 239, the primary fissionable fuel in use today has a 22,000 year half life. That's half life. Being that the average human limit for established communities has trouble getting to the 1000 year mark, I wonder how well the new regime will handle their inherited waste. We do not even know who they are, and we are assuming they will properly handle the problem for our children, our childrens' children, and so on. It appears we obviously do not care about our posterity. Our children will definitely not be ancestor worshipers, unless they are only as bright as some of us on Earth today. But the Ross Perot campaign was a clue ... someone could still upset the status quo teapot here in the US.
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17 of 18
February 10, 2005
There should be a Independent Investigation on the Bush group.

They simply need to tell the truth about nuclear energy.

We continue to be Bushitted by this Administration in every aspect of our existance.

His Dad's, "New World Order" plan is becoming a reality right before our eyes.
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18 of 18
February 10, 2005
The reason why nuclear energy is feasable is because of subsidies from the goverment. Without Gov. subsidies, insurance alone would drive the cost to astronomical prices. Insurance companies do not and will not insure nuclear energy so the gov. will always have to subsidize it. Furthermore, are we counting a 20,000 years worth of rented waste storage space in the $$/kWh equation? I think not. Also you only get one mistake with nuclear and people will be effect forever. That does not happen with PV. If they start building "clean coal and nuclear power plants" I nominate Crawford, Texas as the center of these schemes. Besides the French are really inot nuclear, wouldn't that be an infraction on the fundemental morals of the coalition of the "willing". Anyways, nuclear energy is the gift that keeps on giving for at least 20,000 years, we should think twice before we make decisions that will last 1000s of year after you and I are gone.
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