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Big Oil's 100-Year Incentive Birthday Bash Hosted by...Biofuels?

By Meg Cichon
March 15, 2013   |   8 Comments

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March 20, 2013
Just once I'd like to read one of these articles that mentions how much oil companies pay in taxes. If the oil industry pays $195 billion in total taxes and some random person thinks they should pay $200 billion, does that really count as a $5 billion "subsidy"?
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March 20, 2013
In 2010 the Federal government collected more than $15 billion from oil and gas company corporate taxes and more than $40 billion in consumer-paid oil and gas excise taxes. Total 2010 federal government subsidies and tax breaks and assistance of all kinds to the oil and gas industry as officially reported to Congress by the Department of Energy was $2.8 billion. Meanwhile the alternative energy industry received subsidies totaling $14.7 billion in 2010 with no comparable excise taxes. Looks like oil and gas are buying the cake for this birthday party, as well as comprising $1.5 trillion of the $15 trillion US GDP and underwriting 62 percent of all US primary energy.
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Anonymous
March 20, 2013
The MAIN problem is $$$$$ feeding BOTH of those groups.

One rooster fighting with the other, is all this article is about.

It is shameful that GW Bush gave subsidies of $1 per gallon for
ethanol. Adding same has ruined thousands of engines. Notwithstanding, all of those given to both groups needs to be
discontinued.

Ethanol is stupid and should be stopped. Gas and now, methane
hydrates from frozen clathrates, are coming on strong throughout
the world. Far more energy there than all the oil reserves.

Humans are slow, and the legislative process, with the lobbyists
brings to slug-speed, all about whats good for me/us now.

Five years from now, the way things are rapidly changing, will see this article totally insignificant. The reason the corn states are crowing' is because they grow the POET corn.

It all comes down to one thing worldwide: Humans are always
corralled, corned, imprisoned out of intelligence by their
evey-present 'ET': Emotional Tribalism. That is why the building on the top of the cake is such a tribute to the craziness, crassness, and myopia of U.S. oil-capitalism.
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Anonymous
March 20, 2013
Hey cliff and doggy - not sure what your argument about paying X dollars in taxes has to do with subsidies or the argument against altE companies receiving them. Taxes are based on revenues, which is exactly why the oil companies pay so much in taxes and why altE companies have not paid the same amounts ... so far. Get it! They don't have the same kind of massive revenues that big oil companies do.

Your argument is ludicrous that because the oil companies pay so much in taxes, that the gov't. should give back to them or that their subsidies are justified relative to those received by the RE companies. That is NOT the purpose of subsidies. I think you know that gov't. subsidies are in place to establish NASCENT industries not for providing handouts (or kickbacks for taxes paid) to 100-yr old industries.

Maybe one day renewable energy companies will get to the same level of success as big oil, but I doubt it. Especially with the strength of big oil lobbyists and with narrow-minded, status-quo-is-best, I've-got-mine mentalities of people like yourselves.

Instead of quoting subsidy data from 2010, a time when RE subsidies SHOULD be occurring AND growing, and a time when big oil subsidies should be ZERO, how about quoting data for every year for the last 50 years or so. Then see what the numbers look like!
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Anonymous
March 20, 2013
Another point: Obama speaks with the same brand (do they buy these after two years, in the White House?) of forked-tongue
as GWB. I used to listen to his orations. Now it's just
blabber, for what he says, he is doing alternatives behind our
backs and faces, daily.

The subject-of-example is that the US Gov't, roping the Cdn.
govt. to do the same, will not allow Volkswagen to sell their
72 mpg diesel cars in North America. It's all about gas tax
revenues diminishing if everyone had one. Oh, electric cars!!

Rubbish comes out daily.
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March 20, 2013
The illegal iraki invasion is a trillion dollar oil industry subsidy.
The american soldiers killed in various oil states is another subsidy.
The billions flowing to middle east despots to keep them in power in exchange for "stability" (i.e. easy US access to their oil) is another subsidy.
The billions spent keeping US bases open in the middle east, navy escorts of oil tankers, etc, are yet more subsidies.
The oil industry has subsidies coming out of its ying yang that are completely unaccounted for.
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March 20, 2013
the damage being caused by climate change is yet another subsidy. the taxpayers will pay for moving New York when the sea rises. That will be yet another subsidy.
thousands upon thousands of smog related deaths and health issues - yet another subsidy.
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March 20, 2013
corn for ethanol is presented as a green fuel initiative, but in reality it has nothing to do with helping the environment. Its real intent is to appease the powerful big corn agribusiness lobby.
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