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Memo to the President; Re: Your Forgotten Promise to Put Solar on the White House

By Tor 'Solar Fred' Valenza
November 12, 2012   |   35 Comments

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35 Reader Comments
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1 of 35
November 12, 2012
"Since September 2002, a grid of 167 solar panels on the roof of a maintenance shed has been delivering electricity to the White House grounds. Another solar installation has been helping to provide hot water. Yet another has been heating the water in the presidential pool."

http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/solarwhitehouse.htm
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2 of 35
November 12, 2012
Yeah, Bob, I know, but it's NOT on top of the White House like Carter's and do not feed into the White House. The ones you're referring to are run by the National Parks Department, which manages the White House grounds. The PV powers the ground lights at night. I actually would be happy about those installations if only the President would call attention to them. Give a tour and point them out. Launch a website about their production over the last 9 years. These were installed under Bush II in 2003 without any news media attention. Ironically, it was an economic decision by the National Parks Dept, trying to save tax payers money and nothing to do with Bush decision. They deserve attention, but it would be more symbolic if the Presidential family had solar on the actual White House and were using the system's solar heated water and electricity for themselves.
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3 of 35
November 12, 2012
Thanks for posting this, Tor. You would think it would be a no-brainer decision for the White House. It wouldn't even be the first time because Carter had solar panels on the White House about thirty years ago, which have since been removed. Even George W. Bush used solar to heat a swimming pool at the White House. Installing solar panels on the White House is not only a practical choice, but a symbolic message to the American people. I look forward to seeing some follow-through on this promise too!
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4 of 35
November 12, 2012
Thanks, Tom. Carter's are the most famous, and unlike Bush, he did make it a public media event.

The government actually has its own White House history page http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/tp/History-of-White-House-Solar-Panels.htm

Except it's inaccurate about Obama...so far.
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5 of 35
November 12, 2012
Fred, I'm off the grid and my panels are not on top of my house. They are on racks on the south side of my house. Does that disqualify me?

Could the White House system be larger? Probably. But shouldn't the call be for enlarging the present system rather than ignoring it?
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6 of 35
November 12, 2012
Bob, you're right. As I stated above, this is less about where they're placed as much as getting proper media attention for the White House using solar technology today and their benefits, as well as helping to dispel solar myths. Solar on the White House deserves fanfare, not hiding behind the bushes. No pun intended.
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7 of 35
November 12, 2012
Fred, well said. Leading by example is true leadership. And whereas I agree that an array on the roof of the White House is needed, who's to say a ground mount or pole mount or even trackers aren't in order? Community solar is another excellent idea. And though we would miss out on the visual demonstration on site, the concept of "off site" solar and crediting your utility bill is one which is taking hold across the US. So, I assume this letter has actually been sent to the Prez? Hope so. Please fill us in on the reply. Nice work!
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8 of 35
November 12, 2012
Scott,

It has been sent, multiple times, via Twitter, which they monitor. Sending via email too, but it goes to the same communication department. It's actually better that others resend via Twitter so that they not only see it again, but others see it and retweet and share. That's how things go "viral." :)

Thanks for your support!
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9 of 35
November 13, 2012
Bob Wallace,

I guess the White House should demonstrate the use of aesthetically integrated pv to show the rest of the World they dont have to be an eyesore! He,he,he


Cheers,

Dan
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10 of 35
Anonymous
November 13, 2012
the 'group think' here is painful--just a bunch of solar 'cheerleaders' with little regard for the 'outside' world. The U.S. solar industry needs a GREENBANK from which to finance commercially viable solar projects--currently the big banks are holding solar developers hostage on two fronts: tax investment and project level debt. They overcharge on both because they can (no other options for developers)--quite often they only deal with their 'friends' that provide 'benefits' along the way. MANY solar projects die because the banks don't make enough FREE MONEY out of the deals--they only fund the easy deals with huge upfront fees (can you say SolarCity???) Fred--Get to work on the SolarCity scandal that could be immensely damaging to the industry, and stop wasting your energy with this WH drivel. How about doing an article about the use of MLPs to invest in solar?--just like the O&G subsidy that is the basis for most O&G projects???
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11 of 35
November 13, 2012
Great comments, you guys. And mixed thanks from "Anonymous" - many solar projects are from companies that can finance it themselves, but dont, either from risk or too many years on a possible return. Tax dollars "fixes" the books this way, but why should money come out of one pocket to magically balance the other? Ethanol shouldnt be subsidized at nearly $5 a gallon to lower the cost of gasoline by five cents. Thats where we are with solar now. If it doesnt make money or have someone else paying for it, it often doesnt get done. Banks wont finance something for a thirty-year return on an energy project with no guarantees. If it saves the installee 20%, is that enough to make payments on a 100% financed project? What bank would do it at these rates, anyways? And with the extra savings going to an interest payment, they might see ZERO or even NEGATIVE financial benefits of the install until the loan is paid off.
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12 of 35
November 13, 2012
By the way Tor, the DOE quietly issued an RFP for both PV and SHW a few months after the announcement you referenced. It only went out to companies on the GSA schedule and many of the details were subject to various non-disclosure agreements. It was awarded about 6 months later. The winner was named, but I can't recall who it was and there was no public announcement about the award or subsequent installation (assuming it ever happened). In short, it was treated as any other government procurement.

As for the Parks system, be careful what you wish for, those are Evergreen modules and you know where the media would take that story...
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13 of 35
November 13, 2012
The ITC + SRECs make projects 'bankable' for investors; that's why you see so much activity in well-structured SREC states like MD. I think DC has restructured its market successfully, as well.

The White House likely has a very complicated rooftop--and likely uses a lot of electricity, more comparable to a 24/7 office building (plus servers?)--so we might should be careful what we ask for in terms of showcasing solar!
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14 of 35
November 13, 2012
Kdavis, this was always billed as a demo project by the DOE. That will also have to be explained on any website and by the President... if he ever makes that speech. I don't expect it to be huge. I just want the symbol of the White House using some clean solar energy and hot water.

Paul, yeah, I know. It's been in "procurement phase" for a year and a half now. Do you really think it's taking that long to procure the materials for a 10 kw or whatever system?

As for Evergreen, RIP. That has nothing to do with Obama, just the economics of solar. In any event, those were manufactured in Mass, and they're still working.

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15 of 35
November 13, 2012
I'm sure he can get a nice subsidy for the installation. And tax credits too. How is the sunlight in DC?
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16 of 35
November 13, 2012
I just got an e-mail from Solar America:

"Let the Government Subsidize your Solar Installation"

Has the President asked them?
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17 of 35
November 13, 2012
argulles - If you look at the pictures of the panel install on the White House maintenance building I'd say they did a pretty good job of making a nice looking installation.
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18 of 35
November 13, 2012
When I met the President I gave him a solar panel, he said "What do I do with this?" and I said "Put it on the White House!" Of course we want many high powered panels up on the White House. Message was delivered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_AYslgUy29A#t=72s
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19 of 35
November 13, 2012
Solar Fred,

Thank you again for taking something that the solar industry already knows and helping broadcast it out to the public.

Obama could have had this solar demo project completed by now, perhaps he was waiting to publicize after his(re)election.

Go Solar!
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20 of 35
November 13, 2012
FAIR IS FAIR
Carter was a great starter of solar power
Bush promoted as well ,he even has solar powering his Crawford ,Tx ranch unlike other green friendly people like Brabra Streisand that built a recent new house without using solar or wind power
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21 of 35
November 13, 2012
Tor, yes, after I posted I imagined the promo saying something like the system "generated x% of the household's use", or something.....I would just hate to see it become a stalking horse.

And m-simon, you can find out about solar incentives on the DSIRE site. DC has a fairly well-structured SREC system.
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22 of 35
November 13, 2012
I know the contractor that got the contract to install panels on several federal buildings, including President Obama's Executive Overflow offices which are two blocks from the White House....and protected by secret service since President Obama does work there. 15 kw was installed on that bldg along with a new solar thermal system. They have not installed any solar on the White House yet.
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23 of 35
November 13, 2012
That would be great, Jay! Please let us know what you find out. Then the question is, why haven't they announced it yet? If they're building the info website, etc, I understand that, but then at least give an estimated date about the announcement. I'd hate to see them go up without any type of announcement like Bush did in 2003.
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24 of 35
November 13, 2012
We had a presidential election last week. PBO's number one priority lately has been to get reelected so that he can do more of what he has been doing.

In our two party system one gets elected by capturing as much of the middle as possible. The more extreme people on your side are not likely to move to the other side if you don't fill their Christmas stockings with everything they want. They know the other side will fill them with coal.

I don't see any political gain to be made by publicizing solar. That could have cost some votes from the middle. Had panels gone up on the White House this last year I suspect the right would have used that against PBO, trying to further paint him as a Jimmy Carter.

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Why, oh why have we allowed the right to define Carter as a bad president?
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25 of 35
November 13, 2012
The Contractor doing all those Washington DC solar installs is 1st Power & Light, formerly known as Aztec Solar. They installed Sunpower modules on Obama's Executive Offices. www.firstpowerandlight.net
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26 of 35
November 13, 2012
Jay, couldn't find their website. Please have your friend there contact me via my website, listed top right. It can be off the record for now, but he'll certainly get a shout out and a full interview via this blog here when the install is public. Thanks.
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27 of 35
November 13, 2012
Wouldn't a 500 foot tall industrial wind turbine be a more visible icon of the president's vision? Right in front of the White House???
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28 of 35
November 13, 2012
Yeah....but try getting a permit for a 500' tall wind turbine in the middle of WA DC....or any other big city, for that matter! Good luck with that.... Solar panels make more sense.
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29 of 35
November 13, 2012
This is slightly off topic, but wind isn't effective everywhere, just as solar isn't. Don't have the wind maps for DC, but have a feeling that solar is far more effective than wind here.
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30 of 35
November 13, 2012
The really good wind is a bit to the east. Just offshore.

I expect to see the US offshore wind industry take off during PBO's last term. Everything seems to be in place.
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31 of 35
November 15, 2012
Hi:

I think the Presidents decision NOT to put solar PV on the White House is a security one. When a Solar leak occurs the results can be devastating. Having unexpected sunshine occur god knows where, can be very unsettling. Can you imagine if the Congress building ever has PV and had a solar leak! Sunshine could get in and John Boehner might not need to get spray tanned any more! I think a far better promotion for the White House would be a small scale Nuclear reactor on the roof. This would lead by example that it is OK to take advantage of the loan guarantee the Feds are offering for the Nuclear Renaissance. This would really bring to light the whole electric market being privatized profit and socialized costs... Lets Nuke the White House, for power... NO SOLAR LEAKS...

.....Bill
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32 of 35
November 15, 2012
Brilliant, Bill. 100% behind you. We should also put a coal plant and a gas plant up there to be fair. EPA will have to make an exception for the air just around the 3 blocks of the White House. I'm sure we'll be able to contain that pollution somehow. Thanks for sharing. ;)
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33 of 35
November 15, 2012
Didn't want to be the first to say security is probably the major reason why there are no panels on the white house. Just think of how much longer it would take the sniper team on the roof to get to the other side should a citizen/visitor try to enter the white house grounds.
And it should be common sense that there are plenty of back up generators and fuel, supplied by the inhabitant's buddies, to keep them in power indefinately, should the grid go out. So why bother doing something that might make the public happy and more aware?
Instead of looking to one owner in one white house to set an example why not look across the street and next door from where you are now and try to convince them instead, or better yet, be an example yourself.
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Anonymous
November 19, 2012
for more information about the jimmy carter white house installation,
see: www.roadnottaken.info
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35 of 35
November 20, 2012
Whether or not solar is physically intalled on the roof of the white house, I definitley agree that the solar projects that are installed on the grounds and/or other Federal property should be given some press. The public deserves to know the true solar economics and benefits.

As was stated, the public supports solar but has outdated misperceptions.

Could we petition?
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