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Gas is Greener? Smearing Renewables Over Land Use Exposes Ignorance of Fossil Fuel Lovers

John Farrell
August 15, 2011  |  25 Comments

Oregon's Solar Highway - looking northA recent column in the New York Times suggested that land use is the greatest environmental problem facing new renewable energy.  While getting the facts terribly wrong, it opens a door to talk about the advantages of distributed generation rather than large, central-station power generation.  A prime example is a unique proposal by Republic Solar Highways to put solar PV on a highway right-of-way in California.

Robert Bryce’s column (the Gas is Greener) suggests that wind and solar have a large land footprint compared to gas and nuclear power, and therefore the latter are wiser environmental choices. Of course, Bryce hasn’t read about the Germans, who have installed 10,000 megawatts of solar PV in the past two years, over 80 percent on rooftops. Bryce’s concern for California meeting its 33% renewable energy standard by 2020 (the land use!) crumbles under the German’s torrid pace of rooftop solar development.  If Californians could replicate the German solar PV program, the state could meet its renewable energy standard five years early without using a single acre of undeveloped land.

Bryce deserves a raspberry for his witless comment about wind farms, as well. Before claiming that wind uses 128 acres per megawatt, he may have wanted to look at an actual wind power project. Over 99 percent of a wind farm is simply the gaps between turbines to prevent interference (“wake turbulence”).  In fact, 80 percent of U.S. wind farms use less than an acre per megawatt, one reason that many farmers and ranchers are delighted to host revenue-generating turbines on their property.

Despite its factual foibles, Bryce’s column underscores a fundamental problem with the renewable energy movement: the assumption that wind power can only be developed massive prairie wind farms and solar power can only be developed on hundreds of acres of virgin desert, and strung with high-voltage transmission lines.  

The Germans put the lie to this assumption with their solar program and wind power development.  And innovations in the U.S. also provide compelling counter-examples. Republic Solar Highways, for example, has proposed a 15-megawatt solar PV project along the right-of-way on U.S. Highway 101 in California. The plan would provide power for 3,000 homes and use land that currently gets an occasional mowing from the Department of Transportation, but is otherwise unused.  The idea has a lot of merit, as we explored in our 2010 report Energy Self-Reliant States:

On either side of 4 million miles of roads, the U.S. has approximately 60 million acres (90,000 square miles) of right of way. If 10 percent the right of way could be used, over 2 million MW of roadside solar PV could provide close to 100 percent of the electricity consumption in the country. In California, solar PV on a quarter of the 230,000 acres of right of way could supply 27% of state consumption.

Moreover, there’s abundant evidence that developing solar and wind in this distributed fashion is more cost effective than building large, remote power plants.  And you often don’t have to wait for new transmission lines to be planned, financed, rabidly opposed, and built despite significant opposition.

There are environmental drawbacks to some centralized solar and wind projects and their attendant new transmission lines, but Bryce vastly overstates their land use requirements, and glosses over the additional land natural gas and nuclear grind up for mining and extraction.  More importantly, cost-effective distributed wind and solar power can be built in large numbers (but small sizes) without using undeveloped land, making mock of the idea that fossil fuels are more environmentally friendly in any fashion.  

This post originally appeared on Energy Self-Reliant States, a resource of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance's New Rules Project.

P.S. And to Bryce’s favorable comments on nuclear, distributed wind and solar don’t melt down, either.

Photo credit: Flickr user OregonDOT

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Allen Gerhardt
Allen Gerhardt
August 31, 2011
I see people complaining that Germany, with their renewable energy mandates are forcing their citizens to pay higher electric rates. When the renewable systems are paid off in a few years, as their payback is much shorter due to the purchase agreements, Are these same complainers going to offer to applaud the lack of fuel costs and the low power bills that result from having fuel free, paid off electric generation? This is the difference between short sighted policies and long term concern. Short term policies always cost more, and those who did not prepare for fuel shortages and the higher prices, will be paying far more for far longer than the German's have sacrificed for long term economic gain.
Geoffrey Gunning
Geoffrey Gunning
August 27, 2011
aligatorhardt: Excellent response! As I have stated elsewhere 'the road to renewable energy will be littered with naysayers, liars and doom-mongers, but we will get there in the end - we have no choice.' My own perspective on the current Western World situation (with the USA as the criminal ring leader) is that we are seeing a 'blow-off top' in greed, self-interest and corruption. The perpetrators are blinded by power and riches. Every 'empire' in the past has crumbled - it may take years or even decades to happen, but nothing has prevented it. What we see now in the USA is just the start. We cannot expand the economy and population forever without destroying our planet. I'm no philosopher and not religious, but perhaps this is nature's, God's or Gaia's way of restoring the balance. I am still gob-smacked by the fact that Steve Jobs is sitting on $76 billion and Bill Gates $50 billion, while neither (as far as I know) is involved in renewable energy. Whilst these two peddle their little, self-gratifying toys to the world - 'Rome Burns.' Shame on both of them. Clearly, they despise the population and country that has enabled them.
Thomas M
Thomas M
August 27, 2011
When is the last time anyone heard someone saying how ugly the power lines outside their window are or said anything about them when driving around?....What we need is to keep pushing so every yard has an RE system...then those who onced complained will be the outcast....
Allen Gerhardt
Allen Gerhardt
August 26, 2011
Any REAL environmentalist knows that pollution of air, water, and soil is the greatest threat to wildlife, followed closely by the use of pesticides. Destruction of habitat is right in line. The presence of wind turbines on shore or off provides only a temporary disturbance during installation. After that it is no more of a disturbance than a cell phone tower. Solar is absolutely the cleanest energy system ever invented or imagined. It has zero impact on wildlife, and may even be an advantage in desert landscapes were even sun loving reptiles must get out of the sun during the hottest part of the day. When one considers the impact of fossil fuel and nuclear power, getting rid of them is the best thing that can be done for the environment.

Do not mistake the intent of propagandists against renewable energy. I have spent years providing references and links to information for these people and they will not look at it. They are not acting in ignorance, but rather using calculated propaganda techniche to spread false information in order to allow themselves to profit off the misery of others, and maintain market share in destructive energy systems, and maintain monopolies over energy supplies in order to exploit the maximum from a captive market. They do not want competition or exposure. There are some who are not actively involved in propaganda, but mistakenly think authority is looking out for their interests, but not able to tell the difference between true or false prophets. Those on the fence tend to listen to the talking heads on TV. Fossil fuel and nuclear have everyone's money to use to spread propaganda, but renewable energy industry does not have the media to work for them. I take hope in the fact that renewable and clean energy is growing in spite of these negatives, and putting solar or wind to work and showing neighbors your electric bill or lack of one is the best way to advertise renewable energy.
Fred Linn
Fred Linn
August 26, 2011
anon.-------all that shows is that people who support renewable energy need to be getting on to zoning commissions and local councils.

Environmental concerns need to become part of the discussion of issues in local elections. People who are against renewable energy need to be called out environmental issues and the field should not be left open and unopposed to those who profit directly from BAU fossil fuel use.

After all, environment is a local issue. Everyone lives in an environment, no matter where it is.
lawrence elliott
lawrence elliott
August 26, 2011
"barriers so that passers-by could not actually see solar panels"

Once again leading us to question just how intelligent the human being really is.
Of course the current crop of GOP candidates has pretty much put human intelligence in question already.
ANONYMOUS
August 26, 2011
Nice goin' William Fitch ... as you tip-toe carefully past the sightscape issue. Two different neighboring municipalities have made solar adopters put up barriers so that passers-by could not actually see solar panels (one of them paradoxically made famous by topless marches - naked solar panels bad / naked women okay). REN carried a similar story about a lady who was offended by the sight of a neighbor's panels slightly visible through a hedge row and a municipal government that agreed. We also have some wind farms in our area on hold since, on a clear day, some rich people would be able to see them as little sticks on the horizon - of course our politicians spun this as a safety issue.
Fred Linn
Fred Linn
August 26, 2011
Bman----" There are vast areas of desert that are ideal for solar panels. This land is otherwise worthless:"=========

There is no such thing as "worthless" land. It is simply a different ecosystem. It requires a different solution set, that is all. You can't grow corn in the desert to make ethanol, but you can grow agave cactus quite well----and you can make ethanol from agave cactus quite well. It is called tequilla.

Use the resources you have and don't worry about the resources you don't have. If you don't have sufficient water to be an energy resource---then use resources that don't require water.
Fred Linn
Fred Linn
August 26, 2011
Coal, petroleum and nuclear energy all come from strip mines.

Strip mines not only destroy the land for a single time use, they have immense collateral damage to water sheds and air. And the destroy the land for generations to come.

Land use by renewables is completely reversible---whether it is for wind, solar, energy crops or any other use. Wind or solar becomes undesirable for some reason(I can't even think of a reason why---maybe turbine noise or whatever)---simply move the turbines or panels to another location. There is no damage to the land and your investment is not lost. You can't do that with oil or gas. Something better comes along and you decide not to make ethanol from corn---then plant something else.

Let 'em use "land use" as an argument against renewable energy. It seems to me that bringing this up gives us the opportunity to use the strongest argument of all in favor of renewable energy.
Thomas M
Thomas M
August 22, 2011
Great Bill, funny about the reflection thing. Hope the WWF and FAA don't come knocking. Hate to see birds and pilots being blinded...Peace and Harmony through solar..who'd have thunk it.
William Fitch
William Fitch
August 22, 2011
Hi:

Well, I got my zoning approval provided I maintain harmony in the neighborhood. My arrays are tracking so there were concerns about reflection if one got stuck in a position and was no longer tracking.
So, I think I will name my PV system "Peace and Harmony"... LOL... seems fitting...

.....Bill
Thomas M
Thomas M
August 21, 2011
What about the world's roads? A very large infrastrcture wrapping around the world, covering who knows how much land, degrading flora and fauna, creating heat islands, not to mention all the asphalt plants spewing chemicals into the air and eventually into the lands surround all roadways, all in the name of gasoline.
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 20, 2011
GeraldR...Thanks. You put the land us issue succinctly. Its such a silly argument but it gets trolled out time and time again by the anti wind intelligentsia.
William Fitch
William Fitch
August 18, 2011
Hi:

That's because people get socially rewarded for the counter top and Lexus.
("OH!! look at the Jones's... they just bought a new Lexus...oh yes... they must be doing really well and I heard Jane got a kitchen make over as well!! oh I can't wait until there next party...heee....heee...giggle...giggle")
When was the last time you had to go before a zoning board to buy a Lexus or piece of Granite?
I am one hour in front of a zoning meeting regarding the approval of my PV system I want to install. Hopefully there will be no protests....

.....Bill
lawrence elliott
lawrence elliott
August 18, 2011
Steven I have to agree. Sort of. I have argued for many years that no PV should ever be installed until the consumer of the power cleans up their act. Most homes and businesses waste the vast majority of the power they consume. I do energy audits and I'm never at a loss for a building that is essentially an energy sieve. The owners are totally oblivious to the real reason their bills are so high. Your university systems decline and the prisoner issue would all go away if more folks would get educated on how they waste power and fuel and although I hate government mandates we may be at the point where we will need 'energy police'. Dread the thought but it seems most people would rather put the equivalent of a PV system into a new granite counter top and a Lexus. That has to stop.
ANONYMOUS
August 18, 2011
larryogalaxy writes: "Germany only produces %2 from solar? I question those figures..."

Fortunately, he can confirm them for himself at this site:
http://www.volker-quaschning.de/datserv/ren-Strom-D/index_e.php

German energy policy is at least conducted on a national basis so everyone pays the same inflated price for electricity. If CA implements a massive solar PV program their electricity prices will go up relative to NV, OR, AZ, etc., and this will allow energy intensive industry to go to neighboring states. When solar PV prices do finally drop enough so that adding it actually lowers rates CA will already be maxed out on variable production and stuck with higher rates than their neighbors for decades. Meanwhile it is letting its once great university system wither and prisoners run free--this pell mell rush for renewables is just another step to its financial ruin.
Steven
Gerry Wootton
Gerry Wootton
August 18, 2011
The second tale oft told is that it takes more energy to produce the renewable capacity than it in turn produces. I've seen this applied to solar and wind power projects. This needs to be frequently debunked. Similar tales involve concrete needed and steel needed.

The third tale is about the net amount of pollution produced. I've even seen an argument advanced that the amount of toxic waste produced by solar projects exceeds that of coal power (not even close) and even nuclear power (duuuuh). I've even seen this tale being told by university professors.

Mythology is hard to combat. As comic Ed the Sock says 'if you can't say anything good, say it often'. Somehow, negative stories always have more truthiness than positive stories and the new kid always gets picked on.
Gerry Wootton
Gerry Wootton
August 18, 2011
Renewables have to deal with a lot of babble. And power lines give you cancer.

One of the common tales is the land use thing. Someone needs to construct a chart. I have dabbled a little and was surprised to learn that solar and wind can both beat out a typical hydroelectric project in terms of area used per kWh per year. As many have pointed out wind farms and solar farms (particularly using pole mount trackers) work very well in multi-use agricultural settings. There are also a few wind projects that are working in woodlots. For wind, there is typically a 0.5 to 1 km sound abatement buffer zone which eliminates residential use but nothing else although detractors like to factor in this area as area consumed. A local wind installation uses a big box mall parking lot as a buffer zone. Another thing that the graspers at straws like to factor in is the area consumed by switch gear used to connect to the grid (as if other generators did not have an identical need) - this is particularly necessary to the argument against off-shore generators where land use is a questionable concept. Another inflationary concept is sight scape i.e. a generator is considered to have consumed all of the land area from which it is visible (of course this does not apply to the smoke stacks or cooling towers of non-renewable generators). On the other hand, coal power consumes an amazing amount of land when one includes rock tips, storage yards and ash dumps. Worse, this land is never reclaimed unless one counts the scraggy scrub they call forest and the dry ditches they call streams in rehabilitated areas. Coal plants require set-back zones as well although the typical size allocated is insufficient for health safety reasons. As we have seen, something like a 20 to 40 km radius set-back would be appropriate for a nuclear plant. In Ontario, there are two large blocks of public land that are permanently off limits to the public due to the presence of former nuclear reactors.
lawrence elliott
lawrence elliott
August 18, 2011
Has anyone ever read this fools book Power Hungry? He either is paid a handsome fee to write this drivel or he truly is living inside his own personal spreadsheet induced hallucinations (his entire book is essentially just a babble of numbers and statistics that confirm the old saying of a liar can figure and figures can lie). He has this thing he calls NGN (probably burns incense to it while chanting) that will save the world from that nasty communist renewable energy.It stands for Natural Gas and Nuclear. To him they are both gifts from the God's. To denigrate them is a sin. I'm not exaggerating. Read the book if you can stand it.

Germany only produces %2 from solar? I question those figures but so what. Ever been to Seattle? In winter? When the sun comes out there it is celebrated like the return of some great leader. Germany has less sun than Seattle. Are the Germans crazy? No I think they are a country not solely owned by the fossil fuel industries like the US is and are able to see the forest in spite of all the trees. Now is the US crazy? All evidence lately seems to indicate it. Can you say Tea Party or Rick Perry or how about looney Sarah. OK. Let's include OBummer. Now I need to get back to using all those Marxist electrons.
Christina Nelson
Christina Nelson
August 17, 2011
Yeah, land use. Can't even use the land around Japan's broken down nuke plant. There should be some way to sanction liars like this Bryce. Maybe a liars jar where he (and so many others) would have to put $1,000 in the jar for every lie. Then maybe they would check their facts.
John Giannasca
John Giannasca
August 17, 2011
Thanks John for exposing Robert Bryce for what he surly must be..an apologist for the fossil lobby!
Allen Gerhardt
Allen Gerhardt
August 17, 2011
Who reads the NYT right wing rag anyway? They are always running propaganda pieces trying to discredit any competition for their investments in nuclear power and coal power. The point of land use is the only thing nuclear supporters can talk about, since nuclear power is very powerful, it will win the power concentration race. But that is not a valid point at all when you consider all the land that has been rendered uninhabitable by nuclear contamination. When you consider the cost of health care and environmental cleanups from nuclear power and coal use, They are the most damaging systems in existence. Land use is no problem at all when sites are chosen with forethought. The right of way on roads is a perfect place for solar panels. The use of devastated mountaintops from coal strip mining is a good place for wind power. There is no good place for nuclear power. Coal is either even or a close 2nd to nuclear in harm. All fuel dependent systems will be more costly in the long run.
Another commentor has mentioned shade from solar panel installations. Many desert reptiles are suffering from rising temperatures, having to spend less time feeding out in the sun. The presence of solar panels in the desert can actually increase the health of these animals by providing a shaded area that can be used selectively by wildlife.
ANONYMOUS
August 16, 2011
The author writes: "If Californians could replicate the German solar PV program, the state could meet its renewable energy standard five years early without using a single acre of undeveloped land."

After many years of purchasing much of the entire world's PV supply, Germany still produced less than 2% of its electricity from PV. CA's standard calls for 33% renewables without counting large hydro (which the Germans DO count to get to their 16.5% renewables total). Clearly CA isn't going to make their total mainly from expansion of PV.

Furthermore, CA has had to cut higher education funding by 20% and is being forced to release thousands of prisoners because it cannot afford to maintain minimal standards in its jails. Maybe it should recognize that a poor state shouldn't be trying to achieve double the renewables total of a rich country--they need to realize they are not the juggernaut they once were.

Steven
William Fitch
William Fitch
August 16, 2011
Hi:

Why do people keep giving 'press' to people who are willing to be paid for lying. There certainly is no shortage of them out there. Commenter #1 says, 'To his credit, Bryce is against mountaintop mining.' TO HIS CREDIT!!! Not to his credit. The only reason he is against it is he wants that money for his 'Sugar Daddy's' energy choices. People are so fuzzy on this construct. There is a huge difference between voicing opposition to 'something' based on its intrinsic negatives, VS speaking in disfavor when it is purely profit motivated, I.E. wanting the money for Gas and Nukes. SO, 'MR Bryce' gets ZERO RE points.
The mass media today is all about creating a position of the moment. It makes no difference what you said or did in the past. When questioned about anything that you did or said, all you say is, 'this is my position now, and I am running for President'... OOPS, did I just go political, oh well, not to worry, it is now in the past....
The benignness of solar, wind, hydro, geothermal and bio methane when implemented correctly, is above reproach when compared to Nuclear, shale Methane or any other fossil based fuel. PERIOD. All the rest is paid for misinformation, twisted truths and pure lies.

.....Bill
Bman Bman
Bman Bman
August 15, 2011
Good article: Robert Bryce is in the wrong, and distributed installations can help reduce the footprint of wind and solar.

Bryce is exaggerating the amount of land required for wind and solar, and he is exaggerating the harm of using land for wind and solar.

There are vast areas of desert that are ideal for solar panels. This land is otherwise worthless: No water for farming and no scenic value for tourism.

Meanwhile, the beautiful mountains of Kentucky and West Virginia are getting blown to pieces for a few years worth of coal. Besides, that coal is only slightly cheaper than coal from underground mines. To his credit, Bryce is against mountaintop mining.

Bryce is arguably right about natural gas having a small footprint. The rigs and wells use a small area of land, just like wind turbine towers use a small area of land. But natural gas production is a messy operation: oil, mud, sludge ponds, muddy roads, garbage everywhere, et cetera.

Solar power has a huge potential on rooftops and in other places near houses. Increasing popularity of solar will hopefully force utilities and governments to be friendlier towards net metering and FITs.

Solar can provide shade. There could be a huge market for "solar trees," with "leafs" to provide dappled sunlight: Cooler, lawns grow slower and need less water.

Residential wind turbines have not been fully explored. Drag-type turbines make no noticeable noise. There is an untapped design: hugely overpowered small wind turbines. This means very high capacity factor. Generators are expensive: simple propellers are cheap.

There is a way for solar panels to use very little land: make them vertical. North of 45 degrees latitude, the sun shines on southern walls for several hours per day during winter months.

If solar keeps falling in price and rising in efficiency, then entire cities will be redesigned to capture solar power. Bryce should look at all the wasted sunlight that falls on parking lots alone.

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John Farrell directs the Energy Self-Reliant States and Communities program at ILSR and he focuses on energy policy developments that best expand the benefits of local ownership and dispersed generation of renewable energy. His latest paper,...
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