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Why Solar-Gas Partnerships Are Worth Exploring

Steve Leone
June 29, 2011  |  8 Comments

OK. I’ll admit it. I’m torn on this one.

Idealism has its merits. Practicality, on the other hand, can be a bitter pill. But a bitter pill that allows you to grow in fits and starts — rather than the preferred leaps and bounds — is better than no pill at all.

Maybe this is the fork-in-the-road facing many supporters of the solar industry. They see the future, and it’s filled with clean energy, powered by abundant sunshine, and maintained around the clock by innovative storage systems. They live, however, in the present, and solar still has its skeptics — namely big utilities that like to have things run like clockwork in ways in which they can understand. To most, that means fossil fuels.

Of course, there are some utility giants, mostly in places like California and New Jersey, that have jumped into the solar game. They’ve done this mostly because their state governments told them to.

So it’s interesting when a place like Florida, which has no state renewable energy mandate, introduces a project as big as the recently completed 75 MW Martin Next Generation Solar Energy Center by Florida Power & Light. The true solar innovation may not be the size or the location, but in the partnership. The world's first hybrid plant of its kind combines solar with … gulp … natural gas.

It’s certainly more of an arranged marriage than a love affair. For the most part, though, it’s a relationship that’s been worth exploring. It certainly sounds like a good idea to companies like GE and eSolar, which are teaming for a hybrid plant in Turkey that will combine solar, wind and natural gas.

The reasoning is simple. Using natural gas will keep costs down in the short term, and it will allow the plant to compensate for dips in solar and wind resources. Maybe most importantly, the presence of the natural gas will give the project the financial stability to move forward. In the meantime, storage technology and falling prices of solar and wind can continue to make the gains that will eventually make renewables the most attractive option for utilities. Hybrids are one of many options on the table, and for purists to embrace the concept, maybe it's best to think of them as a bridge and not a dead-end.

This approach of a short-term compromise is being done today in the auto industry. As good as electric vehicles have become, the most successful ones also guzzle some gas, and they’ve been doing so for some time now. While the Prius was dominating the headlines, the EV industry has been busy building a better battery. When the battery that is capable of bringing us on a Sunday drive and back finally hits the showrooms, the marketplace will already have been created.

It’s the same situation for the solar-gas alliance. It may not last forever, but it doesn't have to.

 

Below is a video that shows the FP&L project, as well as some of the economic benefits.

 

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Thomas Edward Fairbairn
Thomas Edward Fairbairn
January 5, 2013
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President Obama when asked by a reporter about global warming at his first press meeting stated:

"We must get the Carbon out of the atmosphere"!

All the CO2 we are pumping into the air right now will stay in the air for a length of time comparable to recorded human history.

There are no other known methods to remove CO2 from the air on the scale that we are emitting it.
Kevin Eber
Kevin Eber
July 5, 2011
Lighten up! The SEGS plants in California have been using natural gas as a backup energy source for decades:
http://www.nrel.gov/csp/troughnet/power_plant_data.html

The main difference in Florida is that the natural gas plant is much larger and more central to the power plant, so the solar part ends up augmenting the natural gas plant, instead of the other way around. I say congratulations to any system that makes good, efficient use of solar energy.
Thomas Edward Fairbairn
Thomas Edward Fairbairn
July 5, 2011
Hi All of thee coments above are great Ideas the use of mixing fossil fuels with othere sources of Renewable energy anotherbusiness that is a startup and needs help also. refer to www.fripro.com
Tom Fairbairn Inventor -CEO
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State of Ohio
Steve Poppitz
Steve Poppitz
July 5, 2011
Has anyone done much research into using old oil and gas wells as geothermal exchange wells? Doesn't it seem to make sense that after millions have been spent to drill an oil or gas well that goes dry, then the same well (owned by an energy co.) could be retro-fitted for heat exchange?And if the geo.energy can't get the turbines spinning fast enough...add solar &/or natural gas to the equation to generate electric power at a much greener and cheaper formula?
ANONYMOUS
July 5, 2011
Every Day I am getting more and more convinced that Biogas/ Solar /wind is the solution to povide energy to 3,00000 Villages in India which do not have it after 63 years of independence.It is definetely not an impossbile task only thing is that our planners are single track persons who have given away millions of dollars as subsidies on Kerosene / diesel / petrol and now all that has gone out of hand- if they would have spent half as much on research and development I believe things would have been far better
Steve Poppitz
Steve Poppitz
July 1, 2011
Dear Ben Rose,
A man after my own heart. I've always been a solar fan. (admittedly mostly passive solar design) Love the ever continueing drop in the price of PV. But curious why BIOGAS is so under-utilized here in America. Nerely 100% of all municipalities have a sewer system and woody waste that both cost them money.Put them together(next to the sewage treatment facility) and you have bio-digestion, and make money creating biogas. Which can be burnt in the city's boilers, or better yet their new CHP's.
BEN ROSE
BEN ROSE
July 1, 2011
I think this is the way to go but needs to be planned to take renewable gas - gasify woody/ cellulosic biomass, produce syngas, which by the methanation process can be made into methane which can be injected into fossil natural gas pipelines.

Then use the gas in combined heat and power stations to give 80% efficiency instead of the < 40% attainable with open cycle turbines.

So the answer is coordinated planning of gas networks, biomass gasification plants and solar thermal power stations.
Gary Tulie
Gary Tulie
July 1, 2011
Gas / solar hybrid technology isn't new. There is a plant in Algeria

The plant is a "150 MW hybrid solar-gas plant at Hassi R'mel, 420 kilometers south of Algiers. The plant is due to go into operation in 2009 and has a 25 MW solar energy capacity with a parabola trough design"

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2008/03/low-cost-solar-thermal-plants-at-heart-of-algerian-german-research-push-51889

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1283009

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