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Oregon Town Gets a Lot of Solar for a Little Money

By John Farrell
June 13, 2011   |   11 Comments

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11 Reader Comments
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1 of 11
June 13, 2011
This is excellent!
I feel privileged to have been involved as a designer during this initiative. Kudos to the City of Pendleton, OR for reinvesting public funds to build community resources.
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2 of 11
June 14, 2011
Hi:

An excellent idea... however the program generated ~.3% penetration based on the pop number. If you counted 3 per household, that's still only ~1%. That is barely noticeable and of an amount that power producers will not even view out of the realm of a novelty. Zoning has to be changed nationwide to site homes for solar exposure. A variance should be required to NOT HAVE TO do this for new construction. Urban sprawl is still happening and these houses go up by the thousands with no energy planning from a solar orientation perspective. This must happen if solar is ever to achieve big penetration numbers in the distributed market. Granted, you can ground mount PV easier than solar thermal, but the energy waste is HUGE by ignoring the sun during a homes construction.
Again to be clear, the program is a small creative step in the right direction. Just need to get those numbers into the thousands.

.....Bill
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3 of 11
June 14, 2011
The truly sad thing in all of this is that installing solar of any type in the vast majority of these homes is the equivalent of having a car that is capable of 100 mpg but never achieves it, since the tires are flat and you're always driving while stepping hard on the brake pedal.I'm evaluating homes and commercial power systems almost daily and it is truly sad how much energy most of them just flush down the toilet(in some cases literally) every day.The 4.5 kw array I now have that zero's out my bill most of the year (that includes heating the house on heat pumps and hot water on solar thermal)would have required an array three times this size or more had I not first changed how I used the energy. There's a 7 acre and an 11 acre array going in not far from here that I feel will be essentially just peeing in a vast ocean of waste. I love solar and have been in the industry for over thirty years but I'm slowly losing my enthusiasm for subsidizing a very wasteful system where no amount of renewables will make a real dent in the overall picture. If I were king I would decree that there would be no subsidize for any energy until the massive holes are plugged in our "energy gas tanks". Cheerleading in our industry is great but a little more reality is also in order.
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4 of 11
June 14, 2011
As the design lead for Solarize Pendleton last summer (2010), I can tell you the average pv array size was over 2kW. This is because Oregon Solar incentives make this the 'sweet spot' for system size, paying back the investment in about 5 years.

Given the resource in Pendleton, and a helpful Energy Trust of Oregon algorithm, that translates to an average annual production 2620kWh/yr. (or 218kWh/mo.)

Now i've only been in the industry as a professional for 20 months, but i learned how to use 60kWh/mo. of electricity while i was a student (which would only require a 600W array in Pendleton) So the good news is, all this pv is on people's roofs in Pendleton because of this initiative, and will be there for at least the next 30 years. Array owners in Pendleton aren't 'hair shirt wearing' college students, but i'm sure they can learn to turn the lights off when they leave the room. And that's enough 'reality' for me.
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5 of 11
June 15, 2011
Sam, You energy hog. I used 59 kWh/mo. The basic charge was $7/mo. & my electric usage was about $3/mo. It's people like you that make the hair shirts tear out their hair trying to figure out a way to make a buck off peolple like you. ;-)

Congratulations on a job well done. Keep up the good work. It only takes one person to start a revolution.

Fellow Renewable Energy degree person like you
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6 of 11
June 15, 2011
Noted well that there are fewer clouds in Pendleton than in Portland. What amazes me about this is that the sewer authority has been frugal enough to have had funds to use.

Could you send those sewer guys over to Portland? We need some frugality counseling in our water and sewer departments. Much of our bills are to pay debt service to the villains of the recession/depression.
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7 of 11
June 15, 2011
Hi:

Better get up to speed on family of four real elect usage. My current rolling year usage in 9300KWH /yr. That's 775Kwh/Mo. And I am frugal!! Numbers like the ones you are quoting are for never home single people or for DINK's who also are never home. My tracking PV arrays will be in the 7KW range gathering at least 10MW a year. Wind will be added later. The extra will be for electric cars and I am still reducing load with more solar thermal to be added and finishing the building envelope remodel, building goal at 7500KW to 8000KW per year.

.....Bill
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8 of 11
July 2, 2011
If people of this small town (or anywhere) could also be self-sufficient in their "sewage" systems . . . that is, if there was a major shift to compost toilets and water catchment systems, then self-sufficiency would be even greater, of course! (Say goodbye to most of those pipes!)

The potential is there. The question, as always, is the initiative to implement such changes. We should have natural incentives to lessen the loads on the grid, the sewers, and all the other public "services."

As so many major cities have discovered the hard way, privatization has not helped lessen these loads, and often has made it worse. The real "privatization" will be when the home, business, apartment, motel, and other owners are encouraged to produce their own electricity, collect and purify their own water, and handle their own wastes.

Much of the overflow and recycling could then be handled much easier in the public sector, if necessary. But why not set up as the major goal, total independence?

I must dream for such a delicious paradise, even if it never comes!
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9 of 11
July 2, 2011
Take heart, Jajagabor! There is an entire underground geekdom that is doing exactly what you counsel. We have parties where it is the subject at dinner, politics included, with religion sometimes appearing as well.

When we are being told on a regular basis that an earthquake could disrupt the usual water/sewer and power utilities, we feel we are simply being sensible.

This is a lush environment, with plenty of fungi, worms, and surplus biomass. Should we need to share the knowledge, the population will adjust. I know I live in an unusual place, now.
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10 of 11
July 3, 2011
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11 of 11
July 4, 2011
Hey Mary Saunders and Luke-Divemaster!

Great posts, and very inspiring indeed!

It's always good to hear the news from those that are living it. Thus, while I knew that the Western US (like in Oregon for example) was doing a lot, it makes it much more real when you hear from it from those that are "on the ground....running," and not just in articles and what not!

Sweet dreams indeed, Luke! Love that song! :D
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