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For Renewable Progress, We Need to Stop Fighting About Light Bulbs

Meg Cichon
June 22, 2011  |  16 Comments

Who would have thought that a debate about light bulbs could be such an eye opener? But this is exactly what former Governor Edward G. Rendell used to describe the state of politics yesterday at the 2011 Renewable Energy Finance Forum (REFF) co-hosted by the American Council on Renewable Energy (ACORE) and Euromoney Energy Events in New York City. During his keynote address, Rendell voiced his frustration about the current politics in Washington by depicting the GOP resistance about transitioning away from incandescent lightbulbs. “We're diddling around on BS while the rest of the world is kicking our butts,” he said.

Rendell went on to call for a renewable energy standard, stating that we must collaborate to fashion a bill that has something for everyone, “we want to change this and the time is now. We have to create the climate for change. It starts in your hometown.” He went on to say that in order for the industry to get pumping again, we need to galvanize public opinion and push for change all the way to the White House.

Joseph A. Stanislaw, President of the JA Stanislaw Group, agreed that if industries don't collaborate now, we will fall behind the rest of the world. “Right now, we have the biggest opportunity of mankind with this transformation that is taking place. We need to change business models and have partnerships with these [fossil fuel companies],” he said.

Along with partnerships, Arno Harris, CEO of RecurrentEnergy, reminded us of the tax equity issue for solar. “We have nowhere near the amount of tax equity needed to maintain solar momentum,” he warned, “if we don't bring it back, the industry is going to run out of gas really fast.” But, he ended on a hopeful note, “we need crisis to spur action and I hope this crisis is what will do it.”

While we heard these industry warnings, we also listened to hopeful progress. Kevin Walsh, Managing Director at GE Energy Financial Services, said that his company has invested $6 billion in the past five years and is eager to continue investing in renewables. He reported that in the past three years, wind costs have dropped 40 percent, “call it grid parity or what you will, it's happening folks and it's exciting.” 

But to make true progress, it looks as though we will all need to collaborate – the public, the energy sectors, the government – because as Mr. Rendell said, “if we don't, we'll fall further behind. So many places are getting it and we're not. We're still arguing about light bulbs.”

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Igor Moisseeff
Igor Moisseeff
August 2, 2011
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Thomas M
Thomas M
July 1, 2011
Well larry, if you've ever traveled to a third world country and spent time in rural villages where there is very little if no electicity at all you would understand how the cost of a CFL would compete against food and other basic necessities.
Yes LED's are a good alternative. Also there are examples of other types of lighting that can be used or made that are cheaper and last much longer than your average incandesent or CFL bulbs. When is the last time you changed a light in your car's dashboard? These lights are made to last for years. There is also an example in the Edison museum of an incandesent light bulb that has been working non-stop for decades. When is the last time you saw a worker changing the bulb in a streetlight? These last for many years also.
Just like any other product, manufacturers do not make things to last even though they could. It's all about the money. How could a company survive if they made a product that will last a lifetime?
Another thing about CFL's is the mercury as mentioned in other post. How many people are going to recycle them like they are supposed to do. Now there is additional cost associated with the disposal for just a lightbulb. Not to mention the toxic waste from the mercury. Thermostats have moved away from mercury based products just for this reason. So why make a new product that contains mercury?
lawrence elliott
lawrence elliott
July 1, 2011
YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF. First you mention the fact that the real changes came about because of government mandates and then : "We need to do the same in this market, let the market work and for god's sake keep the government out of it in this case. They will just screw it up more" Not one thing you mentioned that improves safety came about because the car companies got smarter or more market savvy. Pollution controls,safety and even the new awakening of the EV's and Hybrids had their impetus in being mandated by the dreadful government. I'm no fan of government either but in a true democratic republic I am and all of you are the government. When this mythical 'they' screws things up just look in the mirror. Demonizing the government falls right into the master plan of the current crop of Economic Royalists who now control our government for their own ends. WAKE UP FOLKS The Kool Aid can't be that good. and remember the the so called free market only exists in countries like maybe Somalia. Somalia or a functioning country. It's your choice.
Matthew Nagel
Matthew Nagel
July 1, 2011
I think BKarney hit an important aspect that many in these blogs seem to shun off. People truly do not want to be told what they MUST buy. Instead, PROMOTE it. Make it so they want to buy it and truly understand the benefits. From what I have assessed buying the CFL/LEDs for a consumer is actually a win after you get over the initial purchase cost. So.. help people understand that, let the market take over, so more people understand and also the economies of scale and price point come down. Stop the rhetoric about carbon, carbon credits,reneable vs non-renewable, etc. - it's too devisive. PROMOTE the benefits, address any concerns (whether they are real or not) and let the market take over! These are relavent regardless of our energy source.

After spending 20 years in the automotive supplier sector I have seen this before. There was much said and proposed, right and wrong, good and bad about car safety years ago. It wasn't something celebrated and certianly not something promoted -and in many cases fought hard against by the car companies and even the consumers. Yes, eventually is was legislated into greater installation, but it was the car companies final realization that they really needed to promote features such as ABS, traction control, multi-airbags and now feature that are not even required such as park assist, rear camaras, and now sleep sensors. And guess what people are buying them, the cost of the technology has come down (WAY down) and lives are being saved. We need to do the same in this market, let the market work and for god's sake keep the government out of it in this case. They will just screw it up more.
lawrence elliott
lawrence elliott
July 1, 2011
RE: thomas-mayrand-14505

Thomas I'm certain I'm not the only one on this list anxiously waiting to here additional clarification of exactly how "Forcing the change to more expensive CFL's would put cheap light even further out of reach". Out of reach for whom and what is this mythical 'cheap' light? Also could you provide the true costs of not using CFL's (LED is far superior in all respects)vs continued use of possibly the poorest and most inefficient source of electric lighting:the ancient incandescent bulb (heater)only marginally better than a candle.
RMichael Curran
RMichael Curran
July 1, 2011
60W x 5hours/day x 365days/year = 109,500Watthours/year or 109.5Kilowatt-hours/year. A really efficient coal-burning power plant takes about 9,000btu of heat to produce a kilowatt-hour of electricity. So, 109.5kwh/year x 9000btu/kwh = 985,000btu/year to power a 60W bulb. A good quality coal has 11,500btu/lb: 985,000btu/year divided by 11,500btu/lb = 85lb coal/year to light a 60W bulb for 5 hours per day, every day.
Thomas M
Thomas M
June 29, 2011
Randall, a good portion of the world still has no electric lighting. Forcing the change to more expensive CFL's would put cheap light even further out of reach.
Randall Smith
Randall Smith
June 28, 2011
Fighting about light bulbs is inherently the same as fighting about change. How much coal does it take to power just one 60W incandescent light for a year? Anybody know? A significant portion of coal. Lighting is probably the most obvious symbol of the need for energy efficiency and conservation. Imagine a world without electric lighting.
Bob M
Bob M
June 28, 2011
Seems the question might be "How many light bulbs does it take to change a politician?!"
Allen Gerhardt
Allen Gerhardt
June 25, 2011
The problem with government is the sell-out to corporate sponsors that cause protectionist policies for the market share of those who bribe freely. There is one big fix, and that is public campaign financing. Only when the voters are the sponsors will we see citizens needs represented.
lawrence elliott
lawrence elliott
June 24, 2011
I used to think the politico's who bashed energy conservation (light bulbs etc) were just moron's. No.They are simply well paid corporate whores. Nothing more and nothing less. Those who cheer them on are truly brain dead moron's but that's another story. Incandescent vs CFL? Sure the mercury is a problem. How big? Depends.
Why waste breath debating it. I just completed an upgrade to my shop where I replaced 1260 watts of T-5's with 288 watts of LED's with the same Lumens output. In fact in some cases the lighting is better as I installed 12 individual track mounted lights where I directed the light where it is needed most.
I've heard that there was a real push by some RethugliCON politician in South Carolina that would actually actively promote incandescent bulbs and reject CFL's or LED's. Is that not like promoting the black plague because you have a thing for fleas? Of course it is South Carolina after all. Still mentally living in the 18th century for the most part.
ANONYMOUS
June 23, 2011
In the U.S. there is only or about 1 light bulb manufacture. If you check and look at your light bulbs, they re mostly ALL made in China.

What many might not realize is that those new so called energy efficient bulb made in China comes with high levels of mercury!

In addition, they leak mercury when turned on if you didn't know. This is causing life threatening diseases, so sure you can save some energy, at the cost of the environment and perhaps even your life.

LED light bulbs are better, but the light bulb industry has inflated the cost, knowing this.

As long as business must earn profit, they will always work to insure your dependency upon their products and is why light bulbs never last.

This is done on purpose, to insure you will buy another over and over again. So whatever they come up with next, you can be sure they will insure your dependency upon buying more from them again and again.

I will be selling air soon, knowing the world will become very polluted. Already in Japan they are selling air to breathe.
Scotts Contracting
Scotts Contracting
June 23, 2011
Thoroughly disgusted with the Political Rhetoric that is coming from the Politicians in re to Lack of Understanding about what is causing Climate Change/Global Warming. Call it ignorance or whatever you will, but when a Politician does not heed what Science is reporting as the Cause and Effect of the Weather Fluctuations and the dastardly effects it has on our Environment and the Economy. These actions or in-actions only further to weaken the USA as a whole. Old Fashioned Greed by the Fossil Fuel Companies and those they choose to support- Read between the lines for the real meaning of the on-going policies by this so called Democratic Society.
Bruce Karney
Bruce Karney
June 23, 2011
One big difference between the new US efficiency standards for light bulbs and the 30 year old CAFE mileage standards for cars is that CAFE was a law that directly regulated manufacturers. The manufacturers complied with the law by using price signals and advertising investments to influence which cars consumers voluntarily purchased.

The light-bulb law banned certain products from being sold. Here's a news flash -- Americans generally don't like being told what to do, and they especially don't like it when the impact of their actions on others are negligible. I am a strong environmentalist and all of the non-dimming bulbs in my home are CFLs, but I would love to see Congress repeal the light bulb energy standard law. It's part of the character of many Americans that the surest way to get someone to want something is to tell them they can't have it.

Congress needs to get serious about CO2 pollution and put a price on carbon and stop futzing around the edges of the problem with actions that annoy millions of voters -- and not just Republicans -- but which have only marginal impact in solving the problem
Eric Mathis
Eric Mathis
June 23, 2011
"We're diddling around on BS while the rest of the world is kicking our butts," he said.

Joseph A. Stanislaw, President of the JA Stanislaw Group, agreed that if industries don't collaborate now, we will fall behind the rest of the world. "Right now, we have the biggest opportunity of mankind with this transformation that is taking place. We need to change business models and have partnerships with these [fossil fuel companies],"

http://www.greenforall.org/blog/why-i-moved-to-the-heart-of-the-billion-dollar-coalfield

I could not agree more, this ideological BS of clean vs. dirty energy is killing us!! But things are looking up from this end!! More to come...
Thomas M
Thomas M
June 22, 2011
'But to make true progress, it looks as though we will all need to collaborate ? the public, the energy sectors, the government ? because as Mr. Rendell said, 'if we don't, we'll fall further behind. So many places are getting it and we're not. We're still arguing about light bulbs.''

As far as I know the public makes up the energy sector and the government. It is the corrupt ones we have to change and get rid of, not the lightbulbs.....(How many politicians does it take to change a lightbulb?....)

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