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Oil Money Needed for Geothermal Projects

By Dana Blankenhorn
May 10, 2011   |   3 Comments

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May 11, 2011
Although, as some of the comments suggest, oil & gas companies are not the problem with Geothermal Energy production; they could be the solution. I think that the author meant to put the argument forward that oil & gas companies have all of the expertise to develop geothermal energy but have been less than enthusiastic. As to why oil and gas companies have seemingly resisted investment (except for a select few) is more due to the nature of their business model. Quite simply, Oil & Gas companies are exceptionally good at creating shareholder value finding and producing hydrocarbons. To shift their business models to investing in power grid electricity generation is a big step in another very different arena. Major Oil companies are focused on delivering feedstocks and fuel; not electrons (which is Geothermal Power's ultimate promise).
Major Oil and Gas companies have all of the necessary expertise to find and produce 'hot water'. However they need to acquire a new skill set(s) to transfer that resource into electricity and plug it into the grid. The geothermal industry need to position itself to work 'with' oil & gas companies. It is not an either or scenario.
McDonalds is very sucessfull at persuading millions of people each day to enter the golden arches to buy hamburgers. With this incredible expertise they might easily be able to sell other products or services to their clients. But McDonalds does hamburgers; not widgets. Oil & Gas companies do hydrocarbons, not hot water............but they certainly could!
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May 12, 2011
Why did Raser Technologies go kaput? Mayby it has something to do with incompetence. They claimed their geothermal plant would generate 11 MW, but it never put out more than 6 MW. Add in that it consumed 5 MW to run the pumps, for net 1 MW output. They conned everyone into giving them grant money by hyping their magical heat transfer fluid (patented)that vaporizes at 57 degrees F - they never published its specific heat, so the public is clueless as to how much energy it transfers when it does vaporize. Could have something to do with the failure, eh?
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May 12, 2011
Clee - Their whole con game was to claim their fluid would power a steam generator with water > 57 F. I think they had water hotter than that. Here is a relevant quote from engineering toolbox dot com:
"The input of energy required by a change of state from liquid to vapor at constant temperature is called the latent heat of vaporization. When a liquid undergoes a change to vapor state at normal boiling point the temperature of the liquid will not rise beyond the temperature of the boiling point."
The "latent heat" is the energy that gets transfered to the turbine blades, as the reverse phase-change releases all that energy. For water, that energy is 539 cal/gram which is 539 times as much energy as is required to raise the temperature of that gram of water by one degree. A one degree increase in your working fluid, either before or after vaporization, is 539 times less effective (for water) than getting the phase change at the vaporization temperature! "Not hot enough" is balogna if you have already exceeded the vaporization temperature.
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About: Dana Blankenhorn has covered business and technology since 1978. He covered the Houston oil boom of the 1970s, began making his living online in 1985, and launc... more »

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