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Hydropower Gaining Momentum

By Russell Ray
May 11, 2011   |   12 Comments

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1 of 12
May 13, 2011
Hydro power will eventually be the only viable source for energy on Earth. When we get around to it.
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2 of 12
May 13, 2011
Aside from the possible yield from putting turbines on unpowered dams, the rest of this is all smoke.

The only hydropower that has been installed recently has been the uprating of existing dams. That's upRATING, not upGRADING. There's actually been far more dams ripped out in the last decade then there has been installed.

But the major loss has been seen in simple lowering of the river levels prior to the dams. Less water means less hydro-generated energy.

In 1997, nearly 100 TWhs more hydropower energy was generated in America than was seen in 2010. So there's not more energy coming out of the dams, the dams are being upRATED so that the energy can be timed into greater power for shorter periods - gate timing issues - there's no new energy being generated here.
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3 of 12
May 13, 2011
'smoke'...lol.

Maine's HYDROPOWER PLAN documented 557 MW of hydro power that could be produced on existing dams; and that plan didn't even include the Gigawatts & 'green' jobs that can be made by restoring the hundreds of tidal ponds that powered Maine's coastal economy 150 Yrs. ago.

What people forget is that the annual output of hydro is measured in MWH's and nearly maintenance free operation for 50+ years----some manufacturers will provide a 50 yr. warranty!

As the former state planner, Richard Silkman stated, 'hydro power is as close as man has come to making a perpetual motion machine'!

...and then you have the recreational, fishery enhancement, drinkable water impoundment, flood control, and shoreline property tax enhancement vs. ZERO from wind farms you can easily see why these factors convinced the State Legislature in 1992 to make hydro-power the preferred mode of power generation.

ps. for the uninformed there are thousands of small dams that must remain in place to retain various lakes and waterways----the fabled Allagash waterway would return to swamp were the dams removed! Spillways and outfalls are everywhere, as are weirs and diversion canals. Even fish hatcheries with their constant flows of water now want to generate power to run the hatchery. Add in water districts with in-line turbines that don't reduce pressure, i.e. hydrocoil, canyon, etc. and you have a very large amount of untapped power that can go into local distribution.
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4 of 12
May 13, 2011
Frank,

I didn't dispute the installation of new hydropower turbines into existing dams. In fact, I specifically stated "Aside from the possible yield from putting turbines on unpowered dams, the rest of this is all smoke."

The rest of it IS smoke. It's uprating the dams so that they can moderate the gate-timing for higher profit and better integration with wind energy, but they aren't producing any more energy from doing this.

To bring Maine up specifically, in the year 2010, Maine generated ~3.66 TWh from conventional hydropower. In 1996, Maine generated ~4.16 TWh from conventional hydropower...

(I will concede that 2009 saw 4.21 TWh of total generation from hydropower, so Maine - unlike the majority of American states, isn't actually seeing a gradual drop in hydropower generation... merely weather variations. But the best they've been able to do over the last 15 years has been to break even).
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5 of 12
May 13, 2011
in 1987, Maine's 731 MW of indigenous capacity produced 2,274,568 of MEGAWATT HOURS.

In 1991, this nearly doubled to 3,938,228 MWH supplying 31% of our electric needs--we are a hydro electric exporter!

Some 'smoke' eh! You must be listening to the wind bags, since "in general hydroelectric power continues to be the source of electricity most preferred by New England residents". Indeed, this view and the destruction of the GREEN MOUNTAINS caused Vermonters to support a 20 yr contract with Quebec Hydro and oppose construction of wind farms.

The average useful life of a hydropower facility is well over 50 years; with a non-existent fuel cost and the low operating and maintenance costs quickly offset high initial capital costs. "The amortized hydro facilities that operate in Maine are as close as we come to perpetual motion machines."

So what have you been smoking to cloud your reasoning ability and common sense?
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6 of 12
May 13, 2011
Frank,

I apologize for using symbols or abbreviations that you are unfamiliar with. TWh is an abbreviation for terawatt-hour, or 1 million megawatt-hours.

I assure you that the information I provided is accurate, or at least as accurate as the information the DOE has on the subject.

I didn't look back all the way to 1991, but you're saying that in 1991 Maine produced 3.94 TWh, while the data for 2010 still stands at 3.66 TWh. So using your numbers, the total amount of energy produced has decreased by ~7% over the past 20 years.

This article was touting how much hydropower was GROWING, I contested that, saying that there's no growth in energy generation, and you refute me by showing data that energy production has decreased by ~7% since 1991.

I don't understand what it is that you are disagreeing with here.
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7 of 12
May 13, 2011
Glen, I presented at the 2009 SMALL HYDRO CONFERENCE in Vancouver and learned just how rampant the development of hydro is from the firms who are doing it...once the backbone is completed in B.C., a lot of power is going to be shunted from dams being built in B.C. and Alaska...then you have the generation coming on line in the Canadian subArctic and Nova Scotia.

The Stats I have for Maine reflects unrealized potential, latent potential and undeveloped potential. Paper companies are major producers whose output isn't fully being used.

We are global leaders in developing ocean energy turbines...Ocean Renewable Energy Co. just got done testing their turbine in Europe and apparently it went rather well.

The next step are manufacturing turbines and siting jigs and then deployment.

As I mentioned, we have thousands of old tidal mill sites once used to power coastal industry. ERPI has done some estimates well into TERAWATTS; but I want a new look at tidal energy potential using extraction factors from major players in the tidal field.....AGAIN, I'm looking at potential, not actual output.

The article is dead on when it comes to Maine's potential to produce tidal energy, or to fully exploit latent conventional hydro.....and then there are those sales reps. from QUEBEC HYDRO ready to sell you all the electricity you need for the next 20 years at about 6 cents/KwH.

So if you're shilling for corporate wind farms, be aware that the new administration in Maine has made it a policy that all modalities will be considered on a cost-effective basis.
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8 of 12
May 13, 2011
Frank,

The exact extent of how rampant small hydro is can easily be seen - hydropower generation is dropping.

It's not enough to even keep a baseline in most states (Maine is doing a decent job of maintaining, on average, but they aren't increasing their generation... most other states are seeing generation drop).

As for tidal, deep ocean currents, etc... call me when you have something built, and I'll evaluate it. I'm not opposed, I'm just highly skeptical of the economics.
*shrug*

Until then, I'll watch as wind increases its generation by 20+
TWh/year, and hydropower drops by ~8 TWh/year, and I'll cheer the energy source that is making a positive difference.

(BTW, I don't represent wind. I'm working on a fuels synthesis process that uses electricity. We plan on USING wind, because wind is cheap and growing quickly... but we're happy to use any carbon neutral electrons if you have a better option. I just don't believe there is presently a better option).
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9 of 12
May 14, 2011
Glen, this may partially explain your 'block' on the availability and expansion of hydro power, esp. in British Columbia and Quebec:

"PORTLAND, Ore. — The manager of most of the electricity in the Pacific Northwest is running such a surplus of power from hydroelectric dams that it put wind farms on notice Friday that they may be shut down as early as this weekend.

The Bonneville Power Administration has more than enough electricity during a cold, wet spring that has created a big surge in river flows where hydroelectric dams are located. The agency responded by announcing its intentions to curtail wind power until the grid has more capacity, in a move likely to cost the industry millions of dollars.

The decision reflects an overlooked issue amid the push to add wind farms around the country: The capacity of power grids has not kept pace.

How soon and low long wind farms might be shut down depends on how quickly the region warms up and the water shoots downriver to the Pacific Ocean, said Steven Wright, administrator of the BPA. The farms that would be shut down are mostly in Washington and Oregon."

*chuckles*
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10 of 12
May 14, 2011
How can we store excessive water amounts when it is not needed for electricity? Simple, use it to compress air then use the compressed air lator to generate electricity.
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11 of 12
Anonymous
May 14, 2011
I believe I read about this being done on off shore oil platforms with wind turbines....the air tanks are on the bottom, easier to maintain pressure, BUT the air is used to run tools, not generate electricty....similar benefits....and problems of equipment maintenance, etc.
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12 of 12
May 17, 2011
Frank,

Sorry for the delayed response, but I didn't notice that you had responded to my last.

As to your response. It is not uncommon to have higher output from existing dams during periods of higher rains, and lower output during periods of lower rains. Similar to higher and lower output from wind farms during variable winds. There's nothing to get excited about concerning wind curtailment either... that happens all the time.

But assuming that the waters will remain high - that this is some indication of a trend that will remain constant. That is foolish.

2011 will see total hydropower yields between ~230 and 290 TWh (typical year-to-year weather variability). Still far less than what was seen in 1997 (~360 TWh). 2011 will probably see ~105-110 TWh of wind generation. In 2020, hydropower will probably generate between ~220 and 280 TWh. 220 will see wind generation of between 250-350 TWh.

One is growing, the other is not. If something new comes up and hydropower starts growing again, then I'll start cheering for it. But it hasn't done anything interesting in over a decade, so I don't have much enthusiasm for it anymore.
*shrug*
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