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Retired Landfills Become Solar Infills

By Dana Blankenhorn
January 13, 2011   |   6 Comments

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1 of 6
January 13, 2011
Ahh, that's the whole point. There's $2 million in TAXPAYER (not government!) money to pay for it, and there's all that publicity to be gained. The project, of course, makes no sense - neither engineering nor economic. Here is why:

1. Gluing stainless steel Unisolar PV laminates to an elastic geomembrane is a recipe for disaster. Geomembranes are designed to stretch and accommodate the ground as it settles in landfill. Stainless steel cannot stretch. As result, over time, the adhesion between the laminates and the membrane will be lost, resulting in flying PV laminates, disconnected wires and possible short-circuits. This will give you an idea what happens after about two years under the Sun:

http://picasaweb.google.com/fan.of.ecd/FloridaInternationalUniversitySolarInDistress
(and the ground there was not moving!)

2. Unisolar laminates are not just inefficient and afflicted by severe long-term performance degradation, they will also underperform relative to regular PV modules on racks due to a) overheating from the lack of ventilation, and b) suboptimal tilt (unlike racks, they have to follow the tilt of the landfill slope).

3. The fact is, there are hundred of megawatts of regular PV installed on landfills and brownfields all over the words, mostly in Germany. Those installations, though subsidized, still make more engineering and economic sense than this project.

4. Republic Services knew all that. In fact, their first experiment, the Tessman Road Landfill proved to be a monumental disaster. That installation was supposed to generate 182,319 kWh a year (see page 25,
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B0DZkzLqH2XLOWJjOGU5MzMtNTBlNi00OTJmLWIxZTMtMmJlMWRiZWY1Yjll&hl=en&authkey=CMqlsssD ) . The installation has generated just 143,377 kWh in the past 12 months. In other words, the system is already underperforming by more than 20%.

The waste disposal operator surely knows how to waste taxpayer money!
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2 of 6
January 13, 2011
ecdfan I don't think $2 m is too much to pay to see a failure here. It's going to be a public one, and that will warn people away from this particular "solution."

This assumes you're right, of course. We'll see.
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3 of 6
January 14, 2011
There is a similar mount trashmore in my city for which RE was proposed. It was previously capped and piped for methane. The main point for not moving forward was, as mentioned already, is the settling and movement of the site.
Installing rigid systems, or fixed glued systems, obviously would have it's problems. But what about flexible designs? I have yet to see any racking or mounting systems that incorporate such ideas. I hope I am not the only one who can see the benefits of such installations. EASILY anchored and adjusted, free to move and be moved, removed and relocated or stored,....
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Anonymous
January 18, 2011
To answer acfan"s 1. I have worked with and instualled Unisolar laminates They thare not Stainless steel. They are flexible. they have some stretch and would conform with the earths settliing... If not fastened too tightly to start with. (right engineer me)
2.They only under perform if you measure onlt square inches (not cubic inches) since they are only .12 thick it take more surface area to get the same amount of energy from them.-- But because they are only.12 thick they start performing almost an hour earlier each day and are still performing an hour longer each evening(because the sun has only one crystal to penitrate also since they are connected molcularly not in series by wires they donot have shadow effects (one shuts down they all shut down).
3. Over heating That's a bunch of crap if it over heats it is because the installer does not know what he is doing. The membrane is .12 thick.
4. Unlike rack type systems if a pucture does happen the enntire system does not shut down. Joe Dell
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Anonymous
January 18, 2011
To answer acfan"s 1. I have worked with and instualled Unisolar laminates They thare not Stainless steel. They are flexible. they have some stretch and would conform with the earths settliing... If not fastened too tightly to start with. (right engineer me)
2.They only under perform if you measure onlt square inches (not cubic inches) since they are only .12 thick it take more surface area to get the same amount of energy from them.-- But because they are only.12 thick they start performing almost an hour earlier each day and are still performing an hour longer each evening(because the sun has only one crystal to penitrate also since they are connected molcularly not in series by wires they donot have shadow effects (one shuts down they all shut down).
3. Over heating That's a bunch of crap if it over heats it is because the installer does not know what he is doing. The membrane is .12 thick.
4. Unlike rack type systems if a pucture does happen the enntire system does not shut down. Joe Dell
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Anonymous
January 18, 2011
To answer acfan"s 1. I have worked with and instualled Unisolar laminates They thare not Stainless steel. They are flexible. they have some stretch and would conform with the earths settliing... If not fastened too tightly to start with. (right engineer me)
2.They only under perform if you measure onlt square inches (not cubic inches) since they are only .12 thick it take more surface area to get the same amount of energy from them.-- But because they are only.12 thick they start performing almost an hour earlier each day and are still performing an hour longer each evening(because the sun has only one crystal to penitrate also since they are connected molcularly not in series by wires they donot have shadow effects (one shuts down they all shut down).
3. Over heating That's a bunch of crap if it over heats it is because the installer does not know what he is doing. The membrane is .12 thick.
4. Unlike rack type systems if a pucture does happen the enntire system does not shut down. Joe Dell
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