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Can the New Pickens Plan be Beaten?

By Dana Blankenhorn
December 20, 2010   |   17 Comments

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Anonymous
December 21, 2010
The author writes: "The biggest threat to renewable energy's growth for 2011 is the new Pickens Plan."

Transitioning truck fleets to CNG will reduce our dependence on foreign oil; it is hard to see how that can be a bad thing. We currently cannot produce biofuels at competitive rates and in quantities sufficient to meet transportation needs so this plan really isn't going to seriously impact the biofuels business, at least in the short term. Increased demand for natural gas will only serve to increase its price and that will allow wind power and other renewable electricity generation to compete better. Thus, certain sectors of the renewable energy industry will actually benefit from this plan. If this is really the "biggest threat to renewable energy's growth" the industry can breath a huge sigh of relief. Effort to see the plan "beaten" would be wasted effort.
Steven
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2 of 17
December 21, 2010
Maybe anonymous missed the main point. Pickens wants subsidies for his plan. He wants you, the taxpayer, to pay for him to "keep natural gas cheap and competitive" with "foreign oil" -- but also with renewable power.

So he's competing with you for government largesse, and wants to use that largesse to make it harder for you to make money.

Sounds pretty threatening to me.
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December 21, 2010
He is an environmental nightmare. But he will probably be dead by time any real impact is felt from all his endeavors. So what does he care, as long as his estate is happy.....
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Anonymous
December 21, 2010
The natural gas market is huge (20+% of the electricity market, the dominant home heating source, and a major industrial feedstock) and the capacity of the Federal government to perturb pricing in such a market is quite limited. It is also in the national interest to explore other options to displace oil consumption. This just isn't a big threat to the renewables business.
Steven
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5 of 17
December 21, 2010
Article 18.

Treasurynet.US

18.1 - The Congress and the Treasury of the United States, having the lawful power to issue sound money fully backed by domestically derived silver, domestic hydrocarbon reserves, renewable energy, and other domestic natural resources, are expressly prohibited from taxing the just wages, salaries, pensions, or other lawful remuneration of Citizens, or from borrowing any money, currency, credit, debt, stocks, bonds, or any other financial instruments and derivatives, under any circumstances including war....

Article 22.

22.1 - The President and Vice President shall appoint, with the approval of four fifths of the Congress, an executive Cabinet of Citizens to provide advice and public transparency regarding all six Federal Departments: Defense; Energy, Transportation and Environment; Natural Resources; Justice; State; and the Treasury.

22.2 - Redundant Federal agencies and other excessive bureaucracy shall be discontinued with just pensions for retired officers, officials, and other public servants. Citizens within such agencies that prove highly competent, ethical, honest, independent, non-partisan, and motivated to serve the public, shall be integrated within the six Federal Departments....

Article 28.

28.1 - All public servants of or within these United States, including private contractors hired thereby, shall receive a salary and pension for their services, equal to the estimated average per-capita salary and pension of United States Citizens, paid out of public treasuries, and they shall not receive any other compensation, gifts, bribes, or emoluments....

Treasurynet.US

OpenSecrets.Org

Treasurynet.Org
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6 of 17
December 21, 2010
I have been "warning" the public about the Pickens Plan for years. It has some good features, but Mr. Pickens is prone to misrepresenting things,especially things that will line his pockets with many MORE tens of millions of dollars that he has already gained from the energy industry.
Try a GOOGLE query ilke this (and keep the quotation marks in this case): "American Chronicle" Pickens Williamson .
You will find more than a whole page of listings of articles I have written on the subject of T. Boone Pickens and his supposedly beneficent plans for increased "national energy security". The security he seems most interested in increasing is his heirs for the next dozen generations, and he doesn't seem to worry too much about whether they will have any clean water to drink or not.
Sincerely,
Stafford "Doc" Williamson
http://lifestyle.psyrk.us
http://greeninfo.psyrk.us
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7 of 17
December 21, 2010
I disagree with some of the author's points. First, methane is 21-23 times worse than C02 as a green house gas, not 100 times.
Second, fraking is done so far below the water table, that it would rarely affect water quality. I agree with Clee though. Fraking should definitely be under the clean water act and be very strictly monitored and regulated.

Pickens is just a business man out to make money. There should not be tax breaks for fraking or the Picken's plan. Having said that, if the plan goes forward without tax breaks, it will help renewables, not hurt them. The amount of methane coming on the market is, and will continue to increase, and the price will go down. Boones plan will use up that excess and push the price back up again. This will keep renewables competitive.
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8 of 17
December 21, 2010
Again with the Good old boys carbon fuel musical chairs game. Pickens made his money in oil and cashed in bigtime, although he is still involved in a couple of deals. Take away the oil chair now and take away the NG chair later. Eventually they will all be running for it thinking it is the last chair left. Why would they not throw a few dollars into something sustainable. Matt Simmons was going with GreenGas.cc before he died. Others should copy his ways. Some people mention that if you frack below the water table, that water is could be lost. Or is BigOil using this as a selling point so those islands and coastal areas wont flood from climate change, if they can frack enough water to places unknown??
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December 22, 2010
Hi:

Did you actually think the wind plan was real....
These people no how to mis-direct and lye...
They have it down to a fine Science.. and then some...
People have to stop being fooled so easily...
...it reminds me of the dog in, "Alice in Wonderland".
The male antagonist on the horse promises the dog he can have his family back if he finds Alice. The dog capitulates and as he is runs to find her, the horse says, "dogs, they will believe anything"...

.....Bill
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Anonymous
December 22, 2010
Thanks for your article, Dana. There are some good points. But I want to stress that, from following Pickens over the years, his main concern he always talks about in public is "energy security" and "reducing foreign imports". He has been lobbying for conversion of the big 18 wheelers to natural gas because it is plentiful here within our borders and can signficantly decrease imports of oil, thereby as he infers, stop paying the terrorists. If we look at his plan from that point of view, it makes sense.
But, nothing is perfect. And nothing is easy. Yes, there are issues with shale; yes, he will make money; yes, he deferred or gave up on wind for the moment, not for want of trying.
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December 22, 2010
Hi:

The "Big Play" for NG was conceived long before the 2005 energy bill. These plans are NOT drawn up over night. The Haliburton loop hole that was put in the '05 energy bill was created, planned and implemented. The players probably started talking about that in the late 90's or earlier. It takes time to put those things in motion. You have to "place" people, buy politicians and others in the critical positions, plan a mis-information campaign, marketing, etc.. there are Billions of dollars at stake... they do not leave anything to chance... and they sure as hell don't care about John Doe's water supply.. they have their money to protect themselves and that is all they care about... The NY Moratorium won't last... and once you contaminate the water supply, you are done... there is NO WAY ON EARTH to fix the shale 5000' underground once the "genie" has been let out of the bottle. But there is money to be made on the water filtration equipment that will be needed to purify the contaminated water, etc., etc.. Isn't business wonderful.. Company "X" creates the international tension, starts the war, builds the weapons, creates the medical infrastructure to treat the wounded, owns the company's to rebuild the defeated, on and on...
It's WONDERFUL!!!!

.....Bill
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Anonymous
December 22, 2010
Bill (in comment #13 and #16) writes a good conspiracy theory but it has always been clear that Pickens also had interests in water rights and that his primary interest was in using CNG to compete with foreign oil. Wind was merely a means to free up enough natural gas demand to divert natural gas to CNG trucks. Low natural gas prices, a dip in demand for electricity, and a shortage of transmission to optimal sites have all led to a a speed bump in the development of wind in Texas, and it is only natural that Pickens modify his plans to address new market forces.

If there are legitimate environmental concerns with the new shale gas mining techniques affecting water quality, this is an issue that should be addressed directly. Support for clean water is strong, and on this narrowly construed issue it is reasonable to expect environmental regulations to evolve. A knee-jerk opposition to anything Pickens does or to any expansion in the usage of natural gas, especially CNG vehicles, isn't going to get very far.
Steven
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13 of 17
December 23, 2010
Hi Stephen:

"There are no conspiracies, only business opportunities. Those who are in on the business and those who are not."

The phrase, "conspiracy theory", is used as a mis-direction, a lame attempt to devalue the query/accusation, turn the spotlight, etc.., no different than the word homophobic being used when engaging in homosexual rights issues, aerophobic being used when dealing with safety in flight issues, etc..

Very unoriginal....

.....Bill
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14 of 17
December 23, 2010
I appreciate the debate and hope no one crosses the line and violates Godwin's Law. Calling someone or something you disagree with Hitler is a Godwin's Law violation. I have been called Hitler many times over the years, and it's not fun. It provides only heat, no light.

And I have been enlightened by what has been said here. I want to continue being enlightened.
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December 23, 2010
getting off of imported oil is paramount.getting off of coal should be a close second. that being said ... i'd love to see truck fleets converted to natural gas tomorrow. AND more coal fired plants converted to NG. but by all means, continue to decentralize power production and increase renewables until we aren't importing oil. this is contrary with our (MIC)Military Indust.Complex. until we enlist the MIC to get in the game, these forces will be in opposition.Sec.of Defense Gates even said,"this is the biggest thing we can do to secure national security". well ...?we don't need any tech.break thru's. we need to make a decision as a society to STOP FUNDING OPEC NATIONS. now, that wasn't hard to say. NG is only one way to get there.
i say use it as a "bridge technology" to get past oil & coal, but remember this too is a fossil fuel and limitted.
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16 of 17
December 23, 2010
oh yeah, and if T.Boone gets richer in the process, so be it.there will be MANY US jobs created, and a few less for the Haliburton boys in the Middle East, Russia,Venezula,etc.(our friends) so, Good article Dana. GREAT response. remember that foreign oil is the enemy ... not foreigners.we can't afford it.get off of it. junk the old truck or SUV as soon as possible, insulate your house,encourage you local leaders to go solar/wind/hydro sooner than later
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17 of 17
December 25, 2010
Politics and rain makes strange bedfellows.

Boone Pickens is a mavarick, and the loose cannon on board the oil and coal monopoly Death Star.

If Boone can get a significant number of cars and trucks converted to run on natural gas---and coal plants rigged to use natural gas-----I say more power to him.

So what if he wants to sell his fossil fuel----it opens the opportunity to make biomethane with a ready made market. Fossil methane and biomethane can be mixed in any proportion with no loss of performance in any application---it is the same stuff CH4.

I'd rather have Boone getting rich selling us natural gas than Exxon-Mobil and BP getting richer selling oil.

And when he does, you'll see nothing but backsides and elbows when all the rest of Death Star crew is trying to play catch up.
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