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The Demand for Oil in the Face of Renewables, Electric Vehicles

By Craig Shields
November 21, 2010   |   9 Comments

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1 of 9
November 22, 2010
I'd like to think you're right, Craig. But I think we're going to be sucking the oil out of the ground until there's nothing left.

When oil becomes more expensive, the oil companies become more profitable. When the alternatives start getting developed and demand for oil reduces, it will probably get sucked up by some other energy-hungry country.

I just don't see any signs that tell me oil is in its "death throes."

You are right that the long-term signals point to the eventual demise of the oil industry. But I see it as a long, slow decline -- not a sudden death.
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2 of 9
November 22, 2010
Exxon Mobil recent sales and acquisitions is part of a long term PR strategy to boost the energy giant's image in the US and around the world. Recently Exxon acquired the Exxoncares domains to create and promote a consistent online profile in collaboration with the TV ad campaign. The domains that will be used are as follows:
ExxonCares.com
ExxonCares.org
ExxonMobilcares.com
ExxonMobilcares.org

A member from the leadership team said that the websites would be up soon and will target specific markets in the US and around the world.
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3 of 9
November 22, 2010
Craig---instead of selling, paying capital gains and brokers fees, reinvesting, paying brokers fees again etc. etc.-----

Why not retain your XOM stocks and use your shareholder position to push to move XOM into a position of diversification into biofuels? One voice as a shareholder will have far more motivation than you have on the outside-----and give you an opportunity to find similarly minded people who are also share holders. It makes more sense for an already existing and mature energy company to follow the path of least resistance and get into biofuels and retain market share than to be constantly trying to fend off outside pressure to chip away their market. Each electric vehicle that is sold is the end of the market for petroleum.
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4 of 9
November 23, 2010
Hi:

Sorry for your loss....

.....Bill
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5 of 9
November 24, 2010
Stephen: Sadly, you may be right. In my estimation, it depends on the public understanding of the issues and our sentiment accordingly. Here's a comment on the cost of fossil fuels I got just now on my site at 2GreenEnergy: "The biggest subsidy of all is the $500+ billion a year of military costs used to secure the world's imported oil supply ... If, because we have not made a timely effort to reduce oil consumption, Iran has enough income to go nuclear, how much will that cost?" I remain hopeful that the outrageous costs of our current energy policy (or lack thereof) will become clear before it's too late.

Patricia: Yes, the PR wars are on, for sure.

Fred: Good point; I could certainly take that tack; I wouldn't be the first stockholder to make such a stand.

Bill: Thanks very much for your kind thoughts.
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6 of 9
November 25, 2010
Sell XOM, store and protect the wealth of your father, buy physical gold, or even better: silver as it is used in solar panels etc.
Surely oil will appreciate, as wil XOM priced in $US. But the petrodollar era (U.S. economic growth fueled by cheap oil) came to an end and holding on to old economy stocks (or fiat $cash) will erode your wealth quickly, YOY.
As for alt energy stocks, be very careful, the worldwide technology front is brutal...
http://aquaculture1-energystorage.blogspot.com
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7 of 9
November 25, 2010
Probably the biggest misconception you have is that all oil is used as a fossil fuel. Nothing could be further from the truth. Roughly half of our oil is used for non-combustable purposed. And comparing oil with renewables also is totally off base. We don't (and never did) use more than token amounts of oil to produce electricity, etc. As I recall, roughly half of our oil is used as a fuel for vehicles. And before you start making some conclusions about electric cars eliminating all that gasoline consumption, you'd better do some quick math
to see just how many of those expensive EVs will be needed to make even a dent in our gasoline consumption. A million EVs a year isn't in sight and at that rate it would take many decades before our oil consumption would be drastically reduced, assuming the unlikely event that the total car fleet will not grow. Unfortunately, greenies start believing their own exaggerations and are totally out of touch with anything resembling reality. Only the advent of a practical battery would cause a sea change in autos and rapid replacement of the ICE vehicles, since they would become obsolete.
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8 of 9
November 26, 2010
XOM will do just fine (and exactly what it would have done anyway) with or without you as a shareholder. XOM will make plenty of money over the next 5-10 years certainly, and very likely for the next 20-30.
It will take a generation for the low carbon transport sector to reach critical mass--I dearly hope it happens faster but....

In twenty or thirty years time, would you rather tell your children/grandchildren "I made an extra 5% (or whatever %) profit per year by investing in the biggest company that helped to cook the planet; or "I invested in some smaller companies that saw the climate crisis coming and developed low carbon solutions?
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9 of 9
November 28, 2010
Shouting from protesters in the streets is ignored.

Whispers from shareholders are tuned in loud and clear.
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