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Energy Storage, The Grid and PV

By Pete Singer
November 17, 2010   |   5 Comments

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November 18, 2010
We have been exploring many storage technologies. Pumped air, pumped water, battery, super capacitor, hydrogen, flywheel ect. One strong one I do not see mentioned GreenGas.cc Even though it is still in early stages, investors may be missing the idea that it is a storable fuel, for transportation or large genoration or fuelcells and also a fertilizer for crops we can eat. Worth looking into I believe.
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November 19, 2010
Bob_Wallace is right to point out the use of 'coolth' to condition the air in buildings, sometimes using simple overnight airflow in the building fabric. Simple, vernacular architectural methods should be employed in building design to negate the use of air conditioning. High requirements for overchilled buildings are an indication of poor architectural practices with regard to solar shading, ground pipes, wind direction etc which are all valid architectural methods to keep buildings cooler.
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November 19, 2010
Most of the new concentrating solar thermal plants (CSP) being approved have some amount of thermal storage, up to 6 hours at the plant, and so produce steady power for long periods. CSP inherently has steadier power than PV and wind, due to it's hot working fluid, which is essentially a small amount of storage. Although needing high solar radiation areas like the desert southwest, they have tremendous potential for replacing fossil fuel plants.
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November 23, 2010
San Diego Gas & Electric is concerned about PV on the distribution grid. They forecast 60 primary distribution circuits with 20% solar PV or more by 2020. One circuit is already showing voltage swings of 15% over 10 minutes as clouds pass over. You can't depend on car battery storage to be available when needed.

The VRB-ESS(tm) flow battery can provide hours of storage to shift peak and provide unlimited cycling for intermittency. More information at www.Utility-Savings.com.
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Anonymous
November 29, 2010
Ditto Bob Wallace. Ice thermal energy storage is being used in thousands of projects worldwide to reduced peak demand. As you mentioned, it's the heat of the sun that creates the need for air conditioners which are the primary source of demand. Ice thermal energy storage stores what electric demand is normally needed for, which is cooling. More info here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYA7yrtYQV8
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