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Solar Power VS Fossil Fuels: Game On

By Jennifer Runyon
October 12, 2010   |   12 Comments

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October 12, 2010
Put on the gloves baby -- and let's not limit ourselves to taking on coal. With the electric car + solar combo, we can replace oil too. Yes - We - Can! http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2010/07/yes-solar-can-replace-oil
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2 of 12
October 12, 2010
Putting together as series of solar furnaces and linking them to present day coal or nuclear power grids seems to be more simple than creating vast new solar panels in far off isolated sections of Nevada,California,Arizona,or New Mexico.
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Anonymous
October 13, 2010
Natural Gas will become the fuel of choice for this century
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October 13, 2010
Indeed! Game ON! Though I think that the key to winning the war is going to be winning the hearts and minds of the American People and while television commercials and the like can be somewhat effective, I think that their true value is in simply canceling out the fossil fuel lobby's commercials.

The battle for the hearts and minds should start in pre-school. By taking a long run position and by starting the educational process when kids are young we can eventually allow renewable's inherent advantages to sway public opinion.

That's not to say that we write off today's adults, but by we've got to recognize that for the most part the biggest concern that most adults have regarding our country's energy situation is how much a gallon of gasoline costs.

Bob "Free As The Wind" Mitchell
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5 of 12
October 13, 2010
Every energy source comes with an environmental price tag, but only solar offers the most benign and truly cost efficient energy option when true cost lifecycle accounting is factored. Unlike the fossil fuel and nuclear energy sectors that enjoy massive subsides and hidden public costs, solar energy, from raw materials extraction through installation, in combination with 30- 50 year energy production lifecycle is cost transparent. It is this same transparency which often leads to a imbalance in public perception, fed and funded by industry groups like the API and other fossil fuel interests whose lobbyists and media drill into the minds of the public that solar is a boutique technology, not cost-effective, nor fit for wide-scale implementation.

While natural gas enjoys the label of a low carbon, abundant, and clean fossil fuel it also comes with very high price, one beyond the BTU bill consumers see each month as gas extraction is increasingly produced in combination with hydraulic fracturing.

Coal and oil energy options speak for themselves, commanding the lion's share of the market, but the dirtiest of wide scale energy options available today. The subsets of this old energy, Canadian oil tar sands and mountain top mining coal, hold the dubious distinction of being environmental disasters in the making, yet billions of government and private sector investment dollars continue to be poured into these dirty, costly, and highly inefficient energy sources.

Then there is nuclear power, and its evil twin by-products of weapons and waste. Any investor considering a business carrying with it 225,000 years of toxic waste liability would run away without government (public) subsidies that assume 100% of the sizable responsibilities and risks associated with nuclear power.

Which brings us back to solar, both PV and thermal, as the most cost effective - make sense - energy options for the foreseeable future -- a message that policy makers need to hear loudly, clearly.
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October 13, 2010
If a good person wanted to leave a legacy for future generations, installing solar would be a good choice.

If a solar panel degrades in performance 0.5%/year...

Years until production decreases to 80%: 45 years

Years until production decreases to 50%: 139 years

Years until production decreases to 20%: 322 years

Necessities for life: Food, water, shelter, clothing & energy

Haiti's most immediate need after the earthquake was reported to be energy.
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7 of 12
October 14, 2010
Big oil has a massive liability in that they require a few trillion dollars of military support and have to justify externalizing all of those costs. They should be mercilessly hounded for that.

Secondly, I've heard that solar has actually caused the closure of a few of the oldest, dirtiest, most inefficient coal plants. If this is true, could the industry make of list of those weakest plants and "team up", donate cash, whatever it takes to get PV in direct competition with them and start toppling them one by one?
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October 14, 2010
The fossil fuel industry is much like the global financial system right now. It's a big dying beast, but it's still got lots of strength and has the ability to hurt a lot of people while trashing and snarling on its way down.
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October 28, 2010
The internet has a wildfire effect, and offers a platform (multiple search engines) that allows more depth/reach for the average person (internationally) than at any other time in history.
The fight will be in the form of disinformation and sensationalism. Don't know if the solar players have the right tactics for this one. Prior to the BP diasaster, things were happening pretty slow.
Keep an eye on the advertising methods for gas vehicles from now to the superbowl - EV's are coming- and the creative power behind them as an example. They have billions invested in their infrastructure and won't give up easily.
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Anonymous
October 29, 2010
The price of crude oil, natural gas, coal etc will decide how and when people will switch to alternative energy sources, not cheerleading and flag waving by solar energy industry.
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October 29, 2010
@anonymous: In other words, what happens with the switch to alternative energy will be determined by what happens in terms of the billions and billions in government subsidies that keep the price of oil, natural gas and coal artificially low.
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October 29, 2010
ChristofHeinrich, actually, I think that anonymous is right to a certain extent. The billions that the fossil fuel industries get in subsidies and tax breaks is what it is. It's reality.

With the political power that the ff industry wields it's going to have it's time at the public trough. The best that we can hope in the short run is that our leaders garner the political will to do the right thing and at least give Alternative energy a fighting chance.

In the long run, "alternative" energy isn't going to be an "alternative", it's going to be THE energy source because as time goes on the physical and environmental costs of fossil fuels are going to become unavoidable and undeniable. At that time, subsidies or not, renewables will reign supreme.

The sooner we start the switch, the less it will cost society in the long run even if you include the costs of the subsidies that gave the industry a jump start.

Ironically, it's kind of like that old oil company commercial (actually, I think that it was a filter company, but oh well) said, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later!"

What do you think?

Bob "Free As The Wind" Mitchell
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