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By Eric Paul
August 19, 2010   |   6 Comments

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August 20, 2010
The very idea of grid-tied solar only works, by design, if it is insignificant. The intermittent nature of solar power is not compatible with the stability of the grid unless it is integrated with local energy storage. At http://www.transverter.com/smart.html we describe in detail a system that creates the smart grid and integrates solar power with energy storage on a small, manageable, scale one house and small business at a time. This system can be deployed today and is scalable without limit. By generating solar power in small units on every house and office and integrating it with local energy storage, essentially all of the energy can be used locally and this avoids putting solar energy into the grid in the first place. By not putting solar power into the grid this eliminates the complexity and expense of adding new infrastructure and dedicated elements like large community energy storage units and large solar arrays. The value/cost ratio for this type of system far exceeds what is currently being deployed, see http://www.transverter.com/micro.html. At some point, people are going to demand a richer set of values from the energy projects for which they, ultimately, have to bear the burden of the cost.
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August 22, 2010
My community has experienced several recent power outages resulting from severe weather ("snowmagedon" and torrential rain with high winds). Several of my neighbors have their own diesel-powered backup systems. That meant that these neighbors had power while I had the noise from their generators. It seems to me that providing power from sources between these extremes--the national grid versus individual homeowners--would be a more viable solution, and would make us more energy-secure.

I would like to see more research into community-based energy solutions, similar to the RETI described in the opening comment for this discussion. We seem to be stuck in the paradigm that includes only massive grid-based or small structure-level approaches. That leaves the energy decision-making process in the hands of either highly-regulated corporations, where every decision has huge cost implications, or for individual home-owners with usually limited resources.

Community-level sources could and should be diverse--solar, wind, biomass, geothermal--to prevent any area from becoming dependent on a particular state of nature (winds, sun, etc.) or technical viability. We would also still need a grid to share energy among communities, both as backup and to account for these natural differences, but these grids would each have a smaller capacity and narrower geographic scope, and therefore lower initial investment.
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Anonymous
August 23, 2010
What about AES Energy Storage. See Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/usdepartmentofenergy#p/u/1/k56sw3XbhRc
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August 24, 2010
We have the solution to the grid limitation .....don't use it

The only reason to hook up to the grid in my opinion is to be able to sell excess power created.

Wholesale Distributed Generation and Feed in Tariff is the utility companies' way of controlling interests in power. The roadblocks placing limitations on renewable energy by design protects the grid from competition, these roadblocks protect the interests of the utility companies' monopolies.

Why else would they place such limitations as they do in Hawaii? Competition.

I say do not use the Utility company unless your project it to specifically make a power plant like they are doing on Southern California.

Our company has a product that can do both. It can take your business off the grid completely, who needs the grid unless you sell excess power back to the utility company. BUT they will not let you sell power back they only allow net metering so our answer to that is…disconnect the grid and become independent.

Yes! Independent of the grid, our product sized to your specific need. For instance if you need 200kw 220/440 400apms system we have one that sits in an area of 15 ft by 12 ft and can also be placed underground. We can put a unit in sell you all the power you want for a fixed price of 50% of your highest bill from the last 12 months. With our equipment you will have no need to conserve power anymore.

The other is we can make 5 megawatt power units place 4 side by side and have a 20 mw power plant in an area less then a baseball field. We can make our equipment overpower a facility as much as the grid would allow with clean green power 100% of the time unlike the intermittent power solar provides.

Solutions are here and we have them, soon our equipment will displacing the utility companies largest customers as we take them off the grid.

No grid! No Problems!

www.electric-energy-today.com
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August 24, 2010
Thank you for the information on utility road blocks that is usually never raised in any Renewable Portfolio Standard discussion.

It is surprising that no mention was made of using biomass powered electric generation systems that can provide electricity on a 24/7 basis. AgriPower, Inc. (www.agripower.com) sells a 400kWe mobile waste to energy system designed to use readily available biomass typically produced by the customer (think wood, cardboard, paper, agricultural waste, etc.) as a low cost fuel to generate electric power. This power is intended to be the primary power source so the customer simply reduces the amount of power they would have purchased from their local utility thereby eliminating the grid connection and net metering problems.

The AgriPower system is ideal for commercial enterprises that generate biomass waste as a by-product and has a wide range of applications such as big box stores, malls and large shopping centers, paper and pulp companies, etc. One side benefit is that this waste stream no longer has to be brought to a landfill by an expensive carting company.

The system also represents an ideal solution for what to do with the enormous amounts of bark beetle infested wood that can now be used as fuel to provide power to schools, hospitals, libraries, etc. and create local employment at the same time.

On-site power generation using AgriPower's waste to energy technology provides a simple solution to virtually all of the problems described in the article.

The writer is the CEO of AgriPower, Inc.
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August 24, 2010
Good Joke, Berman.
Solves all the problems. Ha, ha.
Then we only need to deal with warming, excessive CO2, depletion of topsoil, poor air quality, competition for food growing soil, increased transportation costs for bulkier stuff to burn, etc, etc.
Get serious;
The main problems are brought on by the addiction to burn stuff for energy, no matter who does it.
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