Ken Zweibel
June 28, 2010
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I hear that PV really costs about 40 c/kWh, at least that’s what so many people who have their 2 cents to add to the energy debate have to say about it. And then all of Chicago cringes, and with them, the Obama administration.
I would quit if PV cost 40 c/kWh. After 30 years of working in PV, I would quit.
It’s true that it’s hard to understand what PV costs, since we don’t know what dollars per watt means in cents per kWh, and we don’t know what it means in different locations.
Put simply, there are some locations where PV costs 40 c/kWh; and there are some where it costs a third of that. There is no one price for PV, because sunlight varies, and system costs vary with size and design. Large systems are cheaper than small ones.
So some nudnik from the oil or coal industries can stand up and say, PV is 40 c/kWh and not be lying. And I can say it is 13 c/kWh and not be lying, and all without a cent of incentives, not even traditional depreciation.
But I want to prove this to you, because it is important that we get this straight. The debate must move another notch. Simply put, there are places and PV systems today that can sell electricity at 13 c/kWh, or even 10 c/kWh, and make an adequate return. They are cost-effective at those prices without a cent of incentives, no carbon price, and not even traditional depreciation. And there is a potential for billions of watts of these systems and, as the years go by, a diffusion of their locations from the sunniest to less sunny places.
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Assuming the simplest system, a flat-plate CdTe system like First Solar makes, we can expect about the following properties:
Present PV systems have warranties for 25-30 years at under 1% per year degradation, so worst case, this cash flow drops 1% per year. Most PV systems are actually expected to do better, and lose less than 0.5% per year. One could argue for a power purchase agreement to sell the electricity for 10 c/kWh and a 0.5% per year inflation clause and get the 5.83% return indefinitely, like a perpetual bond or an annuity with no end date. Right now, I can’t get 5.83% without selling my soul to Goldman Sachs. How about you?
This picture of PV deployment (large systems in the desert) may not be your or Barbara Boxer’s cup of tea if you want a PV system on your roof. But for the US and world it is great news, because it means that PV is cost-effective in the best sunlight. We now have two sturdy, cost-effective weapons (PV and wind in the best resources) against climate change and for energy self-sufficiency. And over the years, the price of PV will probably follow its 20% reduction for every doubling in volume (as it has for 40 years) and get to be cost-effective everywhere, not just in Arizona. But that’s icing on the cake. There are enough sunny places to do the trick now, if we want to use them.
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June 13, 2011
The man on the street may like "clean coal" and "renewable nuclear", but that isn't what the are going to get on a hot sunny day. You're going to get hydro, or gas, or PV.
Arizona may be a bit screwed up. They like their coal power, and may have regressive electricity pricing structures. However, here in California, you cannot get electricity for 11c/kwh, especially during the day, especially on a hot day.
So, yeah, Ken's production assumptions are all screwed up: he isn't selling his electricity for anywhere near what it's worth.
Even though you can make money putting up large scale PV in the desert, that isn't where the real money is going to come from. Transmission lines have their least capacity on hot sunny summer days. And with BIPV, you essentially get the installation for free: instead of installing composite shingles, you install a different material that happens to produce electricity as a side effect.
The desert is a fragile environment, and building transmission lines across the desert is not attractive. The roof of my house is already a trashed ecology.