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Interior Department To Open 190 Million Acres to Geothermal Power

October 31, 2008   |   8 Comments

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The study found that identified geothermal resources in the West could produce 9,057 MW of power, while another 30,033 MW of power could be generated from conventional geothermal resources that have not yet been discovered.
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1 of 8
October 31, 2008
What is the environtmental impact of this? This article talks about possibly using land from the Natioal forest system and tribal lands. Though geothermal is renewable and doen't emit greenhouse gasses, it seems that setting up a large plant in the middle of the National Forest System will require clearcutting trees and destroying natural wildlife habitats. It seems counter productive as we are destroying one part of the environment (land and natural habitat) to save another (air quality). I don't know a lot about these geothermal plants or their true environmental impact, so I hope somebody can prove me wrong. If not, I'm not sure I support it.

Matt
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November 2, 2008
Geothermal is the future of baseline energy. I understand your concern - removing trees to have an environmental benefit seems counter-intuitive. However, the problem will dwindle as time goes on. The power plants that they are building here (100-200 MW plants) are using existing pockets of steam to drive their turbines. These will last 20 years or so and need to be above existing steam pockets, which is why there is specific land that needs to be used. However, enhanced geothermal, mentioned also in the article, is the way of the future, because it creates its own steam pockets by creating fractures in rock over 3 miles underground. This technology can be used nearly anywhere on the Earth, since 3 miles deep nearly anywhere has super hot rock.

When thinking about renewable energy, we have to distinguish between baseline and peak power. Baseline power is the power that needs to be produced 24/7. Peak power is used when there are surges in energy demand, like in the summer for A/C for example. For peak power, solar and wind are great technologies, because they produce power using natural resources that are not fuels (sun and wind). However, these are not enough because civilizations need power consistently. Because of this, baseline power will not go away. Currently, the forms of baseline power are Coal, Nuclear, Hydro, and Geothermal. Coal emits CO2 (2.08 pounds per kw hr), SO2, and NOX, all dangerous chemicals. Also coal miners are constantly sick. Nuclear poses similar problems, sick workers and family deformities (effects of radiation), plus storage and the possibility (though small) for a nuclear explosion. Hydro is clean, but it is not available everywhere. And thus, enhanced Geothermal is the most promising of the technologies for BASELINE POWER, the key here. Keep in mind the scale of these plants: we are talking 600MW or 1GW here. Check out Google's video on geothermal here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6r_3AgI49Y&feature=user
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November 3, 2008
I'm sure that the geothermal industry will do feasbility studies to find idea sites without major environmental impact and nearest to load centers.

Areas like Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Southern California, etc. are great for geothermal an become near net-zero with geothermal baseload power and solar thermal peak power. Natural gas to supplement as needed.

While other areas, like South East U.S. need geothermal in a BAAAD way! They have little to no hydro resourse, very poor wind capacities, not as ideal solar capacities as one would think. In those areas, that guy formally from greenpeace is not lobbying for nuclear power and lots of it (I guess he got paid) to get off coal. I would love for most of the geothermal concentration start in the ERCOT grid areas (Dallas-Fort Worth area) and find their way to the east coast. A lot of the wind power installed in Texas is actually on the NERC, transmission grid so the major load centers don't get a huge amount of renewables.

After the SE is covered, then I would focus on the rest of the US.
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November 3, 2008
Correction to my last post...it is on SSP, not NERC.
http://www.ercot.com/content/news/mediakit/maps/NERC_Regions.jpg
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5 of 8
November 3, 2008
Matt - I understand your concerns, but there are ways around the environmental impacts of energy production. Take KAPS for example. Its an Icelandic based company that provides smaller distributed power production. They use containers (like those on rail cars) that can be blended into the natural surroundings so they can hardly be see. This is also a baseload power that can be run at 90 to 95% capacity.

http://www.kaldara.com/
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November 5, 2008
Correct, Geothermal is the future and with Organic Rankine Cycle is baseline, but can be boosted with Solar thermal to cover peaks in demand.
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November 5, 2008
The question about cutting trees illustrates a common misunderstanding about "National Forests". Look at the photo by Renner of the INL attached to the story.
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=53980#imageGallery
This is more typical of the type of land being discussed. The US Gov. owns a very large percentage of the land area in the west. Most of it is managed by the Forest Service or the BLM. Some is spectacularly beautiful, but much is desolate and barren. The area is too arid to support the type of forests common to coastal regions. In fact, the availability of water to support Geothermal operations and the potential impact on historical water use/rights is probably a bigger challenge for geothermal developers than any need for tree removal. Trees may be few and far enough between to simply drill where they won't be bothered.
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November 6, 2008
Geothermal power is under utilized energy source here in the US. As for Geo energy source being used up after a period of time is not true. Geothermal heat rises from the earths core. The traditional plants they are talking about are steam based plants. That require very hot rock to super heat the water into steam. Their is another type geothermal plant called a binary plant. A binary plant uses two step process. It uses hot water from the hot rock to heat the water. The water passer threw a heat exchanger, that heats a fluid that has lower boiling point. This expanding gas is used to drive a turbine that is connect to generator.
Good news about this system is that it will work in more locations than traditional geothermal power plants.
The buildings exterior could be blended into the background.
A solar power plant requires far more space than a Geothermal plant. Thus leaving a bigger visual impact.
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