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Raser Geothermal Unit To Feed Power to Anaheim by October

By Charles W. Thurston, Correspondent
July 10, 2008   |   13 Comments

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"The success of this project will be important, because with this new low-temperature technology, the range of potential commercial sites is much wider."

-- Roy Piskadlo, Managing Director, Corporate Finance, Merrill Lynch
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July 11, 2008
Please, don't delete my comment.
It is very important to understand the new CLEAN ENERGY STANDARDS.
Thank you for not to listening to " RENEABLE ENERGY " editors or management.
Dr. Gene Schroeder
2008-07-11
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2 of 13
July 11, 2008
We believe, this is another good and great success to retrieve the natural heat from our earth crust we can harvest in future as sustainable base load supply.
A few days ago our five new "GEO Power Plant" projects in Indonesia with an electric capacity of 2,o [ GW ] - each - were anounced to the press and TV stations.
Already a few more of these very competitive GPPs are planned in SEA.

Sorry, Gov. Schwarzenegger was not listening to Prof. Shaw and his presentations etc. and therefore CA missed a great opportunity for a large scale eco-electricity supply in near future with most inexpensive costs as offered by our investors.
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3 of 13
July 11, 2008
I like the fact the they are using smaller modular power units. That way, is one needs to be serviced, taking one smaller unit off-grid won't have a major impact on the grid as a whole. Try taking a larger unit offline during the middle of the day during a summer heatwave and watch the problems cascade.

I hope this is successful. We can really use this technology now, especially in California. I know that there is some geothermal generation taking place north of San Francisco, but it would be nice to have that expanded. Southern California and northern Baja Mexico would also greatly benefit from having a source of readily available, clean power.

Wouldn't something like this work offshore over a hot vent? It seems like you could use a closed system for the liquid gas that would recirculate to the vent and give off it's heat to the water to produce steam. This might work especially well in places like Hawaii where fuel is expensive to import.
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4 of 13
July 11, 2008
This is a great start! In Utah we have an estimated geothermal potential for over 2.5 million people, wind potential of 2.5 GW (7.3 million people), and concentrated solar potential of 450 GW(1.4 billion people). It would be nice if Utah could keep some of that power to help us reduce our dependence on coal or to stop any plans to produce nuclear power in Utah, which is be proposed along the green river. This would only draw an estimated 18 billion gallons of water from the Colorado River. I guess Rep. Tilton and Transition Power Development have forgotten that Utah is a desert. For more info. visit healutah.org.
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5 of 13
July 11, 2008
Can a second article be written, giving a few basics to give a reader some kind of idea what is involved. For example:

What depth is the well for this project being drilled?

What diameter is the bore of the well?

How deep is the heat extraction zone?

Is the process using a lowered heat exchanger, or is fluid being injected to the bottom and hot fluid being pulled from the well for heat exchange above ground?

Can hot rock in a zone of an empty oil or gas well be converted to extract heat?

Does rock have to be fractured in the hot zone for heat transfer to reach more surface area?
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6 of 13
July 11, 2008
The use of modular units is a good plan. It enables the amount of power to be increased gradually over time and I believe will encourage other countries to have a more favorable attitude toward developing Geothermal.

The fact that these units can operate at relatively low temperatures also makes them attractive to potential customers. I think that Merrill Lynch has outdone themselves on this project.

Geothermal will one day be a real "gold mine" of energy and that once other countries see what can be done to produce power from hot rock, they will also want to develop this God-given clean energy resource for the benefit of their people.

Modular and low temperature,
Easy to transport, set up and use,
Makes Geothermal, become normal,
In producing power from rock that's not too hot.

Merrill Lynch has an economic winch,
Pulling in profits converting heat,
Taking a side, for investor pride,
This is the way to get coal to stop.

Drilling not too deep, where there is heat,
Steam means money from the ground,
Treasure there, eons to spare,
Finally the power's turning on.

adrianakau2aol.com
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7 of 13
July 11, 2008
If they are buying at $78 per MW, that's $.078 per kWh.

Seems really cheap for a renewable. I wonder if there is an increase in rate for peak time demand. SoCal Edison claims to pay up to $460 per MW at peak, $.45 per kWh and as low as $150 MW for some parts of the day. (One of my friends just started as a project manager over there.)
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8 of 13
July 12, 2008
Thanks, I am sure they won't delete anything you said regarding the "NEW CLEAN STANDARDS" that you say are so important.

OPPPS, you forgot to say anything about those standards.

They must not be to important.

As for Gov'r Arnold, he says yes to anything that is supposedly green and gets his name in the news. Some cash helps too. So if he didn't listen to you, then you must be failing to promote one of those things. Its your own fault.
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July 13, 2008
Hi Gene (Schroeder),

I went to your Turbojack site. Have you actually dug a 16km deep 3 meter wide vertical geothermal shaft? Is so what cost?

Thanks,

Ian
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10 of 13
July 13, 2008
I think this is great news. It's the first time I've seen companies go after the lower heat sources which are massive. That it is closed loop re-injection is great too for the environment and the life of the project.

Jim, let us know what you find out from your friend on pricing. I too think $78 for green power is too cheap. tks.

Ian
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11 of 13
July 13, 2008
Your hints are very important to me.

"NEW CLEAN STANDARDS" are based on new "GEO Power Plants" - not invented by Raser, but by SIREX together with TIC.

These GPPs use attached new developed SVTs ( SIREX Vertical Tunnels ) to harvest high temperatures on a large scale ( 2,o - 8,o GW ) for inexpensive electricity.
To learn more look into yahoo.com at TurboJack.com or better visit the Premier Presentation on Augsust 14th, 2008 in Jakarta, Indonesia.

You are very welcome.

GS
13-7-2008
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12 of 13
July 14, 2008
Hi Ian,

the pricing of our 2,000 MW-GPP power is just 2-3 cents/kWh during the ROI phase. Thereafter, it can drop.

We are the only company on earth allowing to harvest for free these hottest natural temperatures - up to 450 degrees Celsius - from deeper regions of the lithosphere with our "SVT"s.

35 years of dedicated R&D, testing all components and developping 14 breakthrough innovations make these first projects happen simultaneously in ten already selected locations.

Like to invite you next month to our premier presentation.

Regard,

GS
14-7-2008
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13 of 13
July 30, 2008
Perhaps I'm missing something, but if this technology is effective at temperatures as low as 165F, why can't it be applied to solar hydronic systems? Granted, electricity is only generated when the sun shines, but there are lots of sunny locations out there......
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