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May 12, 2008

The Folly of Fueled Power Plants

The Earth comes to us with a safe and clean nuclear power plant built in that can provide all of the energy we need. We learned how to tap this geothermal energy decades ago, yet we still seem to prefer gathering fuel and burning it for virtually all of our power needs. Fuel gathering seems to be a deep human instinct that overpowers our logical thinking. Even now, when the earth's climate is threatened and health problems from fuel burning are killing us, we cling to this fuel-gathering obsession.

Heat is continually and safely generated inside the earth's rocks by decay of Uranium, Thorium and other isotopes in the rocks. These rocks are so hot that we need only drill a hole through the outer crust and send water down it to boil that water and make steam. If we drill another hole nearby, steam will gush forth. Steam is what we use to drive turbines in fueled power plants to generate almost all of our electrical power.

However, man prefers to complicate things so we spend billions to build atomic power plants where we can localize the atomic reaction in a reactor vessel. We go to great expense to dig up rocks and refine out the pure Uranium so we can carefully ship it to to the reactor. After the reaction has boiled all the water it can, we store the dangerous residue nearby with the hope that we will someday find a safe place to hide it.

An even more popular way to boil water with fuel is to blast the tops off of mountains and then dig out the carbon that was sequestered by nature eons ago. We then crush and wash this carbon and store the poisonous residue in ponds. We hope to find a way to safely dispose of this waste someday too, but the rest of the poison, the sulfur, mercury, and heavy and radioactive metals fly out of the smokestack when we burn the coal to boil water. Every ton of carbon we burn unites with oxygen atoms from the air to go up the stack as 3.7 tons of CO2. Since this CO2 has been causing nasty climate problems, we are working on a way to hide it in underground caverns. Unfortunately hiding this much CO2 costs a lot of money so we're spending $407 million next year hoping for a breakthrough idea.

Clearly we love to gather fuel because, though we can boil all the water we want for free using the earth's geothermal heat, we spent virtually nothing on geothermal research last year and plan to spend only $30 million next year. It seems that our $2 billion in subsidies to fuel interests last year paid for a lot of lobbying and influence. We need to start in a new direction in our energy policy but can't seem to escape the past. Subsidies are often self-perpetuating.

The cost of a geothermal power plant is mostly in the exploration and drilling costs and research could reduce these costs considerably. EGS technology makes geothermal power practical in areas like the Eastern United States, where natural hot springs are rare. Over the life of a fueled power plant, fuel and pollution control costs will more than erase the cost premium of building a geothermal plant. Both Coal and Uranium costs have been skyrocketing. Health costs, storm damage and environmental destruction are all real but hidden costs of fuel burning. Geothermal heat is a gift from the earth that is ours for the taking, yet the politics of subsidy-preservation have doomed us to ignore our gift.

Thomas R. Blakeslee is president of The Clearlight Foundation, a non-profit organization that invests in renewable energy and other socially useful companies and issues cash grants to individuals who are working effectively for change.

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May 12, 2008
Great comment, Steven. A much-needed addendum to a well-intentioned yet biased article.
Comment 1 of 19
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May 12, 2008
The author writes: "these rocks are so hot that we need only drill a hole through the outer crust and send water down it to boil that water and make steam. If we drill another hole nearby, steam will gush forth."

This statement is a vast simplification, EGS systems also needs to fracture the rock formation between the desired input and output points to increase permeability. That is not an easy task (nor is drilling 6 miles through rock and hoping to find the correct conditions once you get there). Unless there has been very recent progress I suspect the number of times this has been successfully done on a scale appropriate for a power plant is zero. Perhaps this is why the author spends most of his time discussing the deficiencies of other power generation methods--his method of choice has had very limited success. The MIT report that he provides a link to above suggests that 100,000 MWe of geothermal could be added via EGS in the next 50 years. To put things in perspective, this is only approximately 10% of current US power generation capacity. If the current projections for the global warming effect of atmospheric CO2 are not qualitatively wrong, we will need much larger changes, much sooner. This suggests that generation via nuclear, wind, etc. will still be needed.
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May 14, 2008
Terry:
Could you point to any reports or other documentation of your claim that "the Salton Sea area in California has been estimated by some capable of generating more than all the electricity used in California today" ?
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May 14, 2008
In comment 7 William Fitch writes "I always love how when conventional advocates talk about RE problems...."

Hopefully William is not counting me among those nefarious "conventional advocates." For the record, I strongly support research into EGS (as well as a panoply of other alternative energy approaches) but I prefer to maintain a clear distinction between promising possibilities and available options. I also prefer to employ quantitative estimates of the contribution various approaches might make to our energy generation system--for instance, recycling used cooking oil is nice, but no one should believe it is going to make a significant contribution to supplying our energy needs.

Nuclear energy has a number of annoying drawbacks. It is, however, an economically viable alternative to CO2 producing energy generation. Furthermore, the possibility of significant climate change due to CO2 generation seems much more worrisome than the manageable problems associated with sequestration of nuclear waste. A rational approach to risk management would surely not involve continuing along our present path until some optimal solution comes along in the possibly distant future.

I certainly don't share the author's seemingly a priori objection to fuels. Biofuels represent an interesting future possibility as does nuclear fusion. Technical feasibility and economics should guide our decisions rather than dogma.
Comment 4 of 19
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May 14, 2008
Geoff,
Chalk it up to a professional idiosyncrasy if you like (I'm a scientist) but I'd prefer we decide important matters based on something more substantive than prophesy....

I also prefer factual statements to hyperbole and I am inclined to suspect that when someone's arguments are based almost entirely on hyperbole it is likely because the facts are not on their side. The author's comments that "man prefers to complicate things" and that "Clearly we love to gather fuel..." seem designed to deflect us from the plain fact that fuel-based energy generation remains a necessary part of our energy plan because economical alternatives which could ENTIRELY replace fuels do not yet exist. Employing the only extant solution should not be characterized as "folly." I am glad the author was not at hand on the day we discovered fire.

Several times you referred to oil in your comment #6. I point out that very little electricity is generated via oil and that even a major advance in electricity generation technology will not resolve the problems associated with either high oil prices or oil scarcity. You seem to be confusing two energy problems that are only weakly coupled.
Comment 5 of 19
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The Oil Industry has developed some pretty exciting driling techniques that allow very deep drilling, directional drilling and even horizontal drilling at depth.
I intend to pursue such a project. (Yes, I was a supporter of a move to coal in 1970 and went broke with everyone else in the mid 1980's when the Arabs turned the oil pumps on again. But--gasoline from coal kept Hitler in the game for the last two years of WW II.) There are plenty of opportunities in the continental USA.
I'm glad i lived long enough to have another crack at the energy problem.
Comment 6 of 19
May 14, 2008
Hi: I always love how when conventional advocates talk about RE problems they are insurmountable and as a result should be "show stoppers" for that technology.... but of course how to safely contain ever growing amounts of high level nuclear waste, forever!!, is NOT A BIG problem, and we can see how much that issue has prevented the big "N" from being used world wide... Please... the objections to RE are as always, spawned by the ruling conventional power class so they can keep the money flowing and a tight control on emerging energy sources... it is all just "see spot run", business as usual...
Comment 7 of 19
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May 14, 2008
As usual, we seem to have two POLARIZED sides here....the 'prophet' who says we are overlooking an underdeveloped energy source with great potential, and almost everyone else saying he is a 'false prophet' and we shouldn't believe him ! There were prophets for windpower that got 'pooh-pooh'd' 25 years ago, yet now we have 5 MGW wind turbines and we can't get large windfarms installed rapidly enough today. There were prophets 25 years ago that said solar PV could provide a lot of localized power generation, rather than relying on central, nuclear-generated electricity...and that we should put more R&D into this. We pooh-pooh'd THEM, too. Now solar PV is below $5 per watt and going down, and both efficiencies and guaranteed service life of PV panels are going up. Yes, nuclear generation may appear to be the 'savior' when oil goes to $ 200 a barrel, but remember that mining, trucking, processing, and then burning nuclear fuel with oil at $200 a barrel will 'complicate' the nuclear option and exponentially add to its cost. And then we still have the spent fuel rods to deal with for 900 years, when everyone says "NIMBY !!" to that. So why don't we at least LISTEN to what this prophet proclaiming a promise for geothermal energy has to say...and carefully consider it ??! One only has to visit Iceland, Northern California, Sweden, Italy and other places in the world to see that geothermal REALLY works, and that this prophet is not just 'blowing smoke.' Check out Iceland's information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Iceland) and learn that over 70% of their total energy requirements for space heating and power are met through geothermal. Then ponder. If -- like wind, solar PV, water turbines, and maybe a few thousand hamsters running in squirrel cages -- all these complementary sources CAN be effectively harnessed, we won't need oil any more at ALL. Wouldn't that be worth considering ? (My hamsters are 'in training' right now...)
Comment 8 of 19
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May 14, 2008
Wonderful news for you, AJD49.

Most geothermal plants being built today are closed loop binary systems that return most all those worrisome elements from whence they originated.

I will agree with the previous commenters that EGS has enormous problems to overcome but comparatively shallow accessible geothermal waters have been only slightly developed. By itself the Salton Sea area in California has been estimated by some capable of generating more than all the electricity used in California today. The oldest geothermal plant in Larderello, Italy, is still functioning today after more than a century far away from the Ring of Fire. Germany and Sweden are two others aggressively developing geothermal resources. Water temperatures as low as 165 degrees F are generating electricity at Chena Hot Spring Spa in Alaska.

Best, Terry
Comment 9 of 19
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May 14, 2008
How do we stop the water leaching out contaminants and radioactive material and bringing these to the surface?
Are you proposing a giant closed system? If so, presumably this will be using demineralised water. How many gallons of water do you think you will need and how much energy will it take to run the demin plant? Will it be feasible to install a closed loop piping system 6 miles underground?
If you are not proposing a closed system, how do we stop the steam/water leaking out into the environment, and how do we extract these pollutants from the condensate and store them safely?
Aren't you likely to transfer the "nuclear" effluent from one small bucket (the residue after reprocessing spent fuel rods) to another much larger one (the water circulating round your giant nuclear core)?
I would love to think you have answers to these, and have not just written a half-baked evangelical article based on an entry in a childrens' science encyclopedia.
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May 14, 2008
I Like to Gather Fuel

I like to gather fuel and want to watch it burn,
It seems to fill a hidden sense and that is what I yearn,
I lose myself in flames, enjoy the warmth and heat,
Yes gathering and burning fuel to me is quite a treat.

There is no sense in Geothermal, that's the easy way,
It would take out the fun and joy that makes our climate pay,
With tons of CO2, sent up to the blue,
We really don't care much when the future bill is due.

Yes I like to gather fuel, and want to watch the fire,
With all the sparks and flames and heat it is my desire,
An irresponsible way will make us someday pay,
For actions of a two year old leaves nothing to inspire.

adrianakau2aol.com
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May 15, 2008
"The Earth comes to us with a safe and clean nuclear power plant built in that can provide all of the energy we need."

I agree with the author on this, but I say that the power plant we have built in is the SUN. The sun is the source of power we need to tap into now.
Comment 12 of 19
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May 15, 2008
I hate to Gather Fuel

I hate to gather fuel to want and watch it burn,
It seems to be a waste of time and time is what I yearn,
I could have helped my son with homework and spent time with my wife,
But gathering and burning fuel seems to ruin my life.

There is no sense to gather fuel, that's the stupid way,
It takes out the fun of life to pollute the air each day,
With tons of CO2 thats made and sent up to the blue,
I really think this needs to stop, the future bill is due.

Yes I hate to gather fuel, to want and watch the fire,
With all the sparks and flames and heat I am not a liar,
A real way I'm digging for. Geothermal will nicely do
God has already lit the fire, I'm happy to help him too .
Comment 13 of 19
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May 15, 2008
I wonder how to make links live in the comment section?. I have yet to be able to provide a link where it can be clicked and viewed instead of copy and paste.
Comment 14 of 19
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May 15, 2008
I'm with you Thomas,

I am trying to start my own Geothermal Company here in China. Also data I have been looking at says one needs only drill down about 3 miles give or take a 1/2 to reach the hot zone. In Australia they have taken on the cause and are building one in Adelaine. Some problems in Australia is the drilling rod snapped and is lodged in the well and subsequently holding things up.

Really if we are going to consider doing Geothermal I prefer not asking the Government or anyone for money to do it. I am no beggar, and no sweet talking; changes their attitudes, so as far as I'm concerned bums are always bums, forget them....who cares what they think, or negative views they take, because if they are not positive about doing something that provides unlimited energy, without wasting energy, they might as well join their race car buddies who get their rocks off wasting good fuel to watch a bunch of speed freak race cars speed around the track simply to say hey that bozo is a winner! big deal! and who cares who is the faster car!

Learning more about drill bits and hard metals to penetrate rocks is more of my idea to entertainment, and thinking of ways to do drill blasting, by using explosives or vibration to crack rocks first to make it easier on drill penetration. Perhaps even using heat in the hole then send down real cold water to crack rock would be an interesting try. I think drills can be operated independently instead of having an entire shaft rotating at 3 miles in length to do the drilling. A drill should just spin at its tip with the shaft remaining stationary, and I also think they can be powered by electricity than combustion motors. Hope you take a look at my recent Article entitled Geothermal Averts Earthquakes....It is something we have not fully come to realize, and that is this:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/geothermal-averts-earthquakes-opinion
Comment 15 of 19
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May 15, 2008
The late great planet Earth.

As a small boy I watched those Saturday morning cartoons, you know, the ones with the super heros and the super villans. As an adult it would appear to me that, in the real world, the super villans are in charge of the planet and the super heros are always to late and they want financial incentives to boot.

Do you really want to save the planet Earth?
Are you willing to pay the ultimate price?
Then put all of this nonsense about energy away and forget about it!
Sure millions if not billions of people will die, perhaps in the first year.
People die in war everyday, somewhere on this planet.
Are you willing to go to war for the planet Earth like the Americans did to liberate the Iraqi oil, I mean people from there ruler?
I didnt think so. Pity about Earth.

By the way, wasnt Saddam Hussien hung by the neck until dead?
How much did that cost?
Why does America still have armed solders in Iraq?
And to think that some believe Iraq to be the place where human civilazation on the planet Earth began. Pity about Earth.
Comment 16 of 19
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May 16, 2008
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/pdfs/26161a.pdf

Sorry.
Comment 17 of 19
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May 16, 2008
"Fuel gathering" may be a "deep" human instinct, as the author suggests,
or simply his whimsical play on words. Either way, over the centuries, we've cleared the forests across Europe and the Mediterranean basin, and more recently, North America. Brazil and Indonesia are at risk. Since the dawn of the industrial revolution, we've found it necessary to dig deep to extract coal and other FFs to meet our needs, and wants.
If we "prefer gathering and burning it" in centralized power plants, it's likely because whereas necessity was the mother of invention, laziness was the father.

Most Americans and westerners take the availabillity of cheap (easy) energy for granted, and turn their attention to more esoteric interests and pursuits. Alas, cheap energy is neither a birthright nor an entitlement. Not even for Americans. The challenges presented by Malthusian population growth present a new, more daunting paradigm.

The NREL link below provides info about Geothermal Heat Pumps installed in hundreds of schools nationwide. It makes eminently good sense. The playing fields and lawns around most schools, coupled with the matching lifetimes of school buildings and heat pumps, make this solution a no-brainer. Think globally; act locally.
Comment 18 of 19
May 19, 2008
Hi all: I was not, in comment 7, pointing necessarily or only at posters on this thread, just generally "speaking".
Alternatives to anything, are only economically desirable long after they have been financially outrages over their life cycle of development....
The first "N" bomb over chemical weapons, the first mechanical calculator over the pen and pencil, the first computer over the mech. calc., the first iron clad warship over wooden ships, the cost of the first electric light bulb over gas lamps... etc....on and on and on...
How has America forgotten, or been twisted into the thinking, that you get to eat that delicious cake before working hard and unprofitably at the ingredients..??.. What has happened to the INDIVIDUALS that took those first RELENTLOUS marathons towards new frontiers of invention and engineering until the GOAL WAS HAD..??..
I guess they all work overseas now….
After all, if the "ruling power" doesn't want something, more than likely it won't happen… was Christopher Columbus nicely invited to discover the new world….. were Galileo's insights welcomed by the Catholic Church…??.. Hummmm…. not in the near term, and unfortunately this time around mother nature may not give us the luxury of time to squander…
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