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IBM Research Could Lead to Reduced Costs in Solar Farm Technology

May 28, 2008   |   13 Comments

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By borrowing innovations from its own R&D in cooling computer chips, the team was able to cool the solar cell from greater than 1,600 degrees Celsius to just 85 degrees Celsius.
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1 of 13
May 28, 2008
Pretty cool.
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2 of 13
May 29, 2008
Such a logical next step.
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3 of 13
May 30, 2008
Pardon me for being a tadd sceptical but with such a system you need, as they reported, a cooling system, probably involving a 'heat pipe', and a heat sink to take up all this heat (water cooling perhaps or large radiators). Yu need a tracking system since the array has to always be exactly facing the sun. You have to space the units quite far apart so that as they track they don't shade each other. You probably have to mount the unit on the ground rather than on a roof or if you go for a roof mount, you may have to do some serious strenthening of the roof to take all this equipment. With all the moving parts, your maintenance costs are going to be greater than for simple solar panels that just sit there. There are lots of things that work but aren't economically feasible.
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4 of 13
May 30, 2008
Why must we always find ways to take simple elegant ideas and complicate them. Putting solar panels on every south facing roof doesn't require cooling and doesn't enrich the power companies
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5 of 13
May 30, 2008
Isrealis have developed a coating that goes to concentrate light . This uses nano technology. Same way reports have come that an attempt of similar type has also been acomplished in Banglore labs by scientists.The coating is applied to the top of the panel.It has been reported that upto 95% of the UV radiation can be captured and made use of.The cell effeciency goes up substantially.
We use only UV radiation in PV cell based systems, there is lot of other energy like infrared which we use in other devices such as solar water heaters,.How about building devices that use full energy from the sun both UV and Infrared.
If IBM develops such focusing lenses which split the two radiation in different directions then I think the cooling problem on PV cells could vanish.
I believe Diamonds could be explored for this a-pplication.
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6 of 13
May 30, 2008
The object appears to be a 'T' shape with a lens to the left with a perpendicular solar panel.

Does that mean light enters the panel from both sides?

That would limit opportunities to harvest the heat, since the panels surfaces would have to be unobstructed
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7 of 13
May 30, 2008
If they keep the PV cell at 85C the waste heat is low grade and hard to utilize, especially at such small scale.

Going from 1 sun to 200 suns reduces PV cell area by 99.5%. Going from 1 sun to 2300 suns reduces PV cell area by 99.95%. Does that extra 0.45% reduction cost-justify the fancy cooling system and much higher precision lenses and motors? I suspect not but I wish them well.
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8 of 13
May 30, 2008
John Groweg is right, why doesn't the article say anything about the great potential for more energy production from the heat that is transferred away from the solar cell?
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May 31, 2008
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doggydogworld wrote:
"If they keep the PV cell at 85C the waste heat is low grade and hard to utilize, especially at such small scale."

--> This system is for SOLAR FARMS - massive arrays of attached concentrators. The picture is just a lab demonstration unit. If used in conjunction with an industrial, commercial, school, hospital, etc facility, the 60C boost from ambient temperature provides superb pre-heat or final heat.
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doggydogworld wrote:
"Going from 1 sun to 200 suns reduces PV cell area by 99.5%. Going from 1 sun to 2300 suns reduces PV cell area by 99.95%. Does that extra 0.45% reduction cost-justify the fancy cooling system and much higher precision lenses and motors? I suspect not but I wish them well."

You completely miss the point. It is not the area of a cell, it is that "the IBM system cuts the NUMBER of photovoltaic cells and other components by a factor of 10. "

Think about it: A 2000 time concentrator collects the same energy as TEN small 200 time concentrators. One large lens or mirror vs 10 smaller lenses or mirrors. One 1cm PV cell vs 10 1cm cells.
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10 of 13
June 1, 2008
Why must we always find ways to take simple elegant ideas and complicate them. Putting solar panels on every south facing roof doesn't require cooling and doesn't enrich the power companies

Amen Brother Donald
Not mention all the dollars spent on R&D always tring to "reinvent the wheel." I would rather see the lower prices on the existing polycrystalline PV modules that we were all but promised 7 years ago. How much does it actually cost to make a 100 watt polycrystalline PV module anyway. I know that, at a lot of these RE stores, the price tags are over $500. U.S.. Unless of course you afford to purchase an entire 18 wheeler load at a time.

It would seem that Photovoltaics has been placed out of reach of the working man. Unless of course he seeks government assistance.
What was it we were being told? Something to the effect of, " As PV becomes more popular and moves into the public sector, we should see prices start to fall."
Looks to me like somebody "dropped the ball," especially where this so called "shortage of raw materials" campaign appears in the big picture.
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11 of 13
June 3, 2008
It seems a little odd that the material for making solar cells is in such short supply. Isn't the raw material that stuff we sit on at the beach.

For some applications such as solar powered satelites and even solar cars, the Watts per Square metre is pretty important but as Thomas implied, for many applications, the Dollars per watt is far more important. I think part of the problem is all the new developments in the offing. Despite the huge demand for solar, people are reluctant to invest in new factories with the existing solar panel technology because they fear they will be made obsolete overnight if one of the new technologies achieves its long awaited potential.
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12 of 13
June 3, 2008
I thought of that Idea years ago, and IBM turned my suggestion down. What a bunch IBummers. crooks and liars, but at least a good idea finally being projected
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13 of 13
June 11, 2008
A company called SUNRGI has announced similar devices.
I believe one who splits the infrared and UV radiation first will be the winner.
I believe there are already attempts of this type.Is it that simple ?
Think over it. You can then use all the energy.
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