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Clearing the Air: Wind Power and Reliability

By Jeff Anthony, Manager of Utility Programs and Policy, AWEA
March 25, 2008   |   8 Comments

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"Wind energy is an integral piece of our power supply portfolio. It provides a hedge against fuel price volatility associated with other forms of electric generation."

-- Paul Bonavia, Chief Operating Officer, Xcel Energy
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March 25, 2008
Politicians need to stop lining their pockets with money from oil companies and making the middle east rich. We need to support renewable technologies and invest more into developing technology that will improve on these&nbsp;electric generators&nbsp;like big batteries that will store the energy efficiently. Read my article on wind power at <a href="http://www.poweredgenerators.com/wind-power-generators.html" target="_blank">http://www.poweredgenerators.com/wind-power-generators.html</a>
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March 25, 2008
<p>The Wind Generator Song</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Reliable, desirable, wind energy comes through, </p><p>God's gift to man, we should not ban but trust this power true, </p><p>For windy spots are really tops in 'lectric generation, </p><p>Our attitude we need improve with wind by education.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Power's there to glean and share for plants to keep on running, </p><p>Though stop and go as winds do blow they ever will be coming, </p><p>To work and toil and never spoil the air which we like breathing, </p><p>For coal one day must go its way, are we ourselves deceiving. </p><p>Spin, Spin, Spin, generators, </p><p>In the windy places always be so kind, </p><p>Keep on turning in the breeze and with stately, steady ease, </p><p>You will help us leave our problems behind. </p><p>adrianakau2aol.com</p>
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March 25, 2008
<p>Spain peak wind contribution at 40% over easter 2008 -- AWEA should update this article</p><p>AFP: Wind Power breaks all records in Spain (40% of all power at one point and stable)</p><p>&nbsp;http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jb_CljIaxmm-5LbeW4Hb0taAY8VA</p><p>--------------&nbsp;</p><p>25th March 08&nbsp;</p><p>MADRID (AFP) - Wind power is breaking new records in Spain, accounting<br />for just over 40 percent of all electricity consumed during a brief<br />period last weekend, </p><p>On&nbsp; Saturday evening wind parks generated 9,862 megawatts of power which translated to 40.8 percent of total <br /><br />Between Friday and Sunday wind power accounted for an average of 28<br />percent of all electricity demand in Spain<br /><br />record for power out for Spain's wind&nbsp; - March 4<br />at 10,032 megawatts, </p><p><br />Spain's wind power&nbsp; equalled hydropower in 2007.</p>
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March 26, 2008
<p>We can see what is happening in Spain because both the system load and wind power output are published on the internet with data every 3 minutes.&nbsp; I am not aware of any other large networks which publish data in this way.&nbsp; I think that if the area covered was large enough such as Europe or North America the variability of the total output would decrease.&nbsp; The peak output in Spain as noted&nbsp;in the first comment is less than 65% of the nominal peak output from the conneceted wind turbines.&nbsp; This shows that the variability has already been significantly reduced for Spain as a whole compared to individual plants or wind farms.</p>
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March 26, 2008
<p>Weather (read wind) tends to travel across a country in fronts.&nbsp; Wind generation becomes much more reliable overall when turbines are spread all over a country or better still, as in Europe, when turbines are spread over many countries with interconnected grids.&nbsp; In addition, when we have enough renewable energy sources, more and more often, power generation will be in excess of demand,&nbsp; This raises the possibility of using demand balancing rather than the present supply balancing.&nbsp; See:</p><p>www://mtkass.blogspot/2007/10/excess-energy-what-to-do.html&nbsp;</p>
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March 26, 2008
good article.&nbsp; You may also want to mention the relationship of diversity of geography required or the typical 30% total output from nameplate over the duration of installation.&nbsp; The UK even had a paper submitted about the potential for 100% wind by surrounding the island.&nbsp; This seems risky. I have yet to read a good study of wind variability across the major grids in the US.&nbsp; My guess is ERCOT will be the first to research and increase the wind component of allowable generating mix.
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March 29, 2008
<p><font color="#008000">Until West Denmark stores wind energy as electricity or heat, it gains few<br />of the benefits claimed for subsidizing and building this large wind<br />capacity. So far wind has made a very minor contribution towards reducing<br />its dependence on coal and natural gas. This is easily checked by tracking the use of coal and gas in Denmark since wind became a significant source of generation.</font><font color="#008000"><br />East Denmark generates approximately 1.5 TWh wind energy and consumes<br />roughly 14.5 TWh.&nbsp; When the wind blows strongly, East Denmark also exports net power.</font></p><p><font color="#008000">E &amp; W Denmark will be inter-connected in 2009, after which net wind consumed in Denmark may rise a little.</font></p>
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March 29, 2008
<font color="#008000">It is true that West Denmark generates roughly 4.5 TWh of wind power per<br />year and consumes roughly 22 TWh of electricity.&nbsp; It is not true that<br />Denmark receives over 20% of its electricity from wind power.<br />Mostly, when wind power in West Denmark generates more than 500 MW from a<br />capacity of 2400 MW, net electricity flows out of West Denmark along its<br />2400 MW capacity inter-connectors towards bigger power systems in Norway,<br />Sweden and Germany.&nbsp; The amount of wind power that West Denmark actually receives and uses amounts to something between just 4 and 8% of all the power it consumes.</font>
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