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Stirling Takes the Fifth

By Elizabeth McCarthy, Editor, California Energy Circuit
November 12, 2007   |   15 Comments

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While not getting a straight answer about what is or isn't happening with my husband's remodel is irritating, getting a non-response about a major solar power project that affects the outcome of the state's renewable law is inexcusable.

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15 Reader Comments
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1 of 15
November 13, 2007
There is going to be a presentation by Stirling Energy Systems (SES) on Wednesday, November 14th at 7 PM at the Aztec Athletic Center Auditorium at SDSU (San Diego).
Directions: https://sunspot.sdsu.edu/map/SDSU_MAP.pdf
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2 of 15
November 13, 2007
I've been waiting for more news on this project as I felt it was a great alternative to using nuclear for baseload requirements. I have mixed emotions about the transmission project, however. Generally speaking, I am disappointed that the Stirling project seems to be imperiled or poorly planned. A successful Stirling project would have demonstrated it's efficacy over nuclear. This might lend more opposition to the upcoming ballot initiative in California regarding nuclear waste and what to do with it. The "American Nuclear Priesthood" wants to get the camel's nose in the tent that is the Republic of California. I say NO!
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3 of 15
November 13, 2007
Elizabeth,

You're not the only one who's been stonewalled by Stirling. After repeated attempts to get information about using their technology in some smaller projects, I finally got my answer.

They're not interested in selling their units in smaller lots.
They're not interested in talking to anyone but utility companies.
They're not interested in releasing information to the public.
And if you're not their boss, they're not interested in talking to you.

Their prototypes are real enough...

But, they are not behaving like a manufacturing start-up business.

Their behavior is consistent with start-up companies that sell plans, promises, and stock.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, aren't government transactions subject to the FIA?

Frankly, it smells like a scam.

I sincerely hope my instincts are wrong.
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4 of 15
November 14, 2007
"No response to emails and no return phone calls from Mr. Linden."

Hmmm... "Mr. Linden." His address wouldn't be something like "Linden@SecondLife.com" would it?

(For those who don't know, Second Life is an on-line imaginary world that is being taken quite seriously -- I believe Sweden has opened an Embassy there -- and all the staff and administrators there have the same last name: Linden.)
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5 of 15
November 14, 2007
If you have good cheap energy from free piston stirling engines running on sunshine ,there is no need for atomic power . That means~ you cannot make the basic materails for bombs ,perhaps thats why Mr Bush and uncle Sam does not want this good Scotish~ 200 year old invention, that was first to run on sunshine. In the 1850s on a small dish to print the tickets ,handouts etc for the great Cristal Palace exibition in London . To become a useful alternative ,however it will run on atomic energy which they are using in distance space and submarines ,so why worry . With modern technolgy there is no reason, why that every house in the sunshine. Could become independant from the big companies.Perhaps that's why they do not want to sell smaller units or give the public a fair price for RE energy. That could be coming from the publics own backyards on a two-way meter system.
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6 of 15
November 14, 2007
I also have tried contacting sterling several times in an effort to purchase and or work a possible partnership to manufacture their units for my company Solar Cent$. No response to emails and no return phone calls from Mr. Linden. This is frustrating to those of us who are excited about their technology and are working to apply it in the real world. But take heart all the unit parts can be accuired seperatley through the companies that manufacture each segment. And the data from Sandia labs looks good.
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7 of 15
November 15, 2007
Jim
Robber Baron 2.0
Good analogy.
I like that.
Mind if I use it?
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8 of 15
November 15, 2007
'The utilities get to count those paper deals toward their RPS obligations; at least until 2013.'

I think you've hit it right there. This seems very likely to be a b.s. holding maneuver to make it appear that the big util. are meeting their RPS standards.
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9 of 15
November 15, 2007
This article adds to my suspicions that many of these renewable energy projects are scams, or shell games at best, probably designed to pull down grants or investment money. If you're buying in to these things be very careful.
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10 of 15
November 15, 2007
Elizabeth,
Thank you for an excellent report on the patrician haughtiness of major stewards of our energy and environmental future. The arrogant secretiveness of regulatory bodies (CEC, CPUC), supposedly serving and accountable to all stakeholders, was particularly repulsive; obviously its intended purpose. It's to be expected that such crass behavior, a veneer overlaying more craven antics, is the signature of our late Robber Baron 2.0 era's terminal stage.
Something stinks in southern California and it ain't bearings. Please stay on this story and reporting on developments. Maybe an ambitious District or U.S. Attorney's interest will be piqued. Thanks again for a good report.
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11 of 15
November 15, 2007
Sterling Stuff

This project seems just like a flower,
It blooms then disappears,
Hidden under leaves of silence,
No progress is what we fear.

What path is it to take, who knows,
No information given,
Though the technology may be good,
The project's people driven.

Though human lips may sink ships
When giving information,
The public needs an upgrade now
Why the hesitation?

We're not at war with solar thermal,
It's our friend indeed,
We hope to benefit from it,
For a little noise we plead.

A picture or a document,
Proof progress has been made,
We expect the Sterling stuff,
To work in sun, not shade.

adrianakau@aol.com
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12 of 15
November 15, 2007
It is interesting to note that the "latest" news on Stirling Energy System's website is dated Dec 22, 2006 and the "Breaking News" photo gallery and articles cover the 2005 power purchase agreements with San Diego Gas & Electric and SCal Edison.
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13 of 15
November 17, 2007
Speaking of Robber Barons, I heard that Florida Power and Light has place orders from all wind generator manufacturers for all production of units for the next two years. If this is true they are planning to monopolize wind power for the country. Anyone else heard anything. This could be a big story.
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14 of 15
November 17, 2007
Keep after Stirling Liz... but lighten up on Gus.
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15 of 15
November 28, 2007
Sterling's website had a story about a visit by President Bush, who gave a speach there. That gave me a very suspicious Enron-like feeling about them. That was before I read this article. I hope we're wrong because the technology looks very promising.
I think it looks more well-adapted to distributed applications, which the company refuses to consider. The big mirror array type solar concentrator systems need to be utility scale; but one dish, the size of a tree, that could power my suburban block - just seems great for distributed generation, not large fields of them. Their shape does not lend itself to the most efficient use of space.
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