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PV Costs to Decrease 40% by 2010

May 23, 2007   |   28 Comments

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"To say that Chinese PV producers plan to expand production rapidly in the year ahead would be an understatement. They have raised billions from international IPOs to build capacity and increase scale with the goal of driving down costs. Four Chinese IPOs are expected to come to market this month alone."

-- Travis Bradford, Prometheus Institute, president
28 Reader Comments
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1 of 28
(In layman's terms)A good example of cost vs. price is oil. Demand growth for oil does not increase the cost of making oil, it increases the price at the pump that you pay.
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2 of 28
Cost reductions and Price reductions are two completely seperate issues. Yes, costs per watt of PV are decreasing, but the true question is will cost reductions reduce price, or, alternatively, will new PBI feed-in tarrifs in Spain, Italy, etc. and tax credit PV legislation passing through the U.S. Congress spur unprecidented demand for modules.

Unfortunately the latter is more likely.
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3 of 28
May 23, 2007
This is very good to know. Other countries are looking for the cost of wind and solar to drop sharply. I am personally pushing for wind energy escalation in the Dominican Republic, and now that solar has a bright future, I will be pushing for a deal with solar energy beginning in 2010.
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4 of 28
May 23, 2007
I'm excited by the optimism of this report and hope that we indeed will see cost reductions of 40% or greater that can help make solar power competitive with fossil fuel power a few years from now. It would be helpful if we can get a national RPS to help lock-in a commitment to the emerging wind and solar technologies that would become a lot less en vogue if the price of oil and natural gas go back down to 2003 levels (though that probably won't happen unless there is a major economic slowdown in China, the US or other major consumers).

Why is there a push for the Production Tax Credit to be extended through 2014 if there are estimates for the cost of wind and solar to be competitive by then? Shouldn't we push for an extension through 2010 rather? Or is the 2014 position stated so that a compromise can be reached at around 2011?
Good luck in your efforts as we aim for a low-carbon future!
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5 of 28
May 24, 2007
Big Oil is already hedging their energy portfolios with renewables. BP, for example, has a huge solar module production capacity. If they're smart, they'll take some of those inflated profits and invest in solar, wind, hydro etc.
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6 of 28
May 24, 2007
When electricity generation from PV does become comparable in price with oil, does anyone have an opinion on what the powerful oil companies will do to defend themselves?
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7 of 28
May 24, 2007
What % of the cost of a PV module comes from polysilicon?
It whould be very nice to see another report like the one you published on January 11, 2006 - "2005 Solar Year-end Review & 2006 Solar Industry Forecast" from Piper Jaffray.
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8 of 28
May 25, 2007
To William Fitch:

That's an excellent point. It's clear the "Producer Price Index" will reset to a new lower price equilibrium than previously, though as we demand soars we'll move back up the price curve (damn I'm getting flashbacks from Econ 101) :-) This is only my prediction but given the growth of firms and capital entering the market, there is going to be very efficient pricing - far more than we experience with conventional energy sources that we typically asociate with the free market.
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9 of 28
May 25, 2007
Jim Berry-oil ,coal and nuclear are some of the most subsidized(BY TAXPAYERS)companies in the "free market".If solar, wind,et al were treated to the tax holidays etc. that big ol'power is treated with,solar would compete on an equal footing today.
Sustainable energy is the only time you actually pay for the true cost of power(or are constantly reminded of it )
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10 of 28
May 25, 2007
40% for who..??.. Most likely the mfg's not the end consumer...
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11 of 28
May 25, 2007
To Jim Berry,

One of the reasons the costs will come down in a few years is because of the solar installs taking place now. The demand, investment, and practice of solar pv are leading to production and technological breakthroughs. Plus, smaller savings due to more efficeint production and installation practices add up in the future to bigger savings in the marketplace.
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12 of 28
May 25, 2007
To Jim Berry:

While it's true that the US average for conventionally produced electricity is indeded in the $0.10 to $0.15 range, do not be fooled that this is the function of the free market. In non-deregulation states rates are set by state utility commissions. In PA where I live, rates were FROZEN for 10 years as a concession to allow competition - quite a contradiction. In 24 months those rate caps will expire and we can can expect 30-40% immediate jmps as happened in MD, IL, NJ and other such states. Further, generators and fuel source providers enjoy termendous benefits in the federal tax code such as accelerated depreciation and outright credits. If externalities from environmental degradation and health issues are added, these sources of electricity are not so competitive anymore. Personally, I hope that the "lines cross" w/out need for federal subsidies of PV so thse arguments cn be retired.
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13 of 28
May 25, 2007
Hey this is great News!!

Doesn't this mean we should cancel all of our PV installs nation wide and wait until it is cheaper.

Since solar costs $.30 to $.60 per kwh (solar buzz 2006 report) then it is still a loser versus everything else which typically costs $.08 to $.12 per kwh(coal, nuke, natural gas) or wind that costs $.18 per kwh.

Think of the millions of dollars that can be save by delaying all of our solar projects just a couple of years! We could save even more by cancelling them - but that's not politically correct. Also It would be unfair to all those companies that are lined up for the industrial welfare checks (subsidies).

When it cost $.30 to $.60 per kwh to make power that competes with power generated at $.05 to $.18, who do you think pays the difference?? The tax payers.
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14 of 28
May 26, 2007
In advocating earth friendly energy measures, I am frequently confronted by this idea that we cannot afford to save the earth. How long can we ignore the costs of oil use that are not reflected in market prices and that are bringing our global ecosystems down and driving us to war? As one who has solar panels on the roof, I can only say that the satisfaction I get from having taken a real step away from war for oil, from ecological destruction, and from contributing to the profits of billionaire war mongers far surpasses the impact of any other purchase I have ever made. The economic rationalists that live for maximumizing of profits (read greed) need to wake up to what their narrowness means to themselves personally and to the world. As someone said, the stone age did not end for the lack of stone.
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15 of 28
May 26, 2007
Jason, Don't forget the 7th Fleet and all the Middle East Invasion/Occupation Operations. They're all about oil. $trillions.
Also: Not everyone has such cheap electricity as 15 cents--Hawaii is 36 cents.
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16 of 28
May 27, 2007
Supply side costs to produce a module are decreasing, however demand is continuing to explode. Module prices are $.40 less a watt right now ($3.85) than they were last September, but think they will go back up as peak demand this summer continues.
$2.50 a watt module prices is a good thing as an installer, but whether it is a dream or becomes reality is another.

I can tell you that racking costs are not going down and several manufacturers are way behind at the moment.
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17 of 28
Sometimes reductions in costs do not translate into reduction of the price of goods sold. Thus larger profits are generated. With this product and the competitive nature of other alternative energy sources this type of scenario will probably not happen. The high cost of labor is what is keeping profits in China high. Advances in industrial output production or increases in supply should produce lower costs and thus larger demand. Keep in mind the gasoline consumption in the U.S. has not dwindled as the price continues to increase. Product elasticity. However the pinch has been in other consumable purchase reductions. The three basic commodity necessities will be purchased first and then other non-current wants will be reduced if disposable income is reduced. The utility value of a commodity must be evaluated with every individual purchase as related to the whole consuming process.
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18 of 28
May 27, 2007
So, now in this new age world community, keeping up with the Jone's has become keeping up with the Chinese.
BIG MONEY. Is that what life for human beings an Earth is all about. Mindless automatons generating revenues with blind abandon.

Those of you that have seen the movie "the Patriot" (Mel Gibson) know the scene where he has lost himself to rage beating a mans skull in and then looks up dazed and confussed and then comes back to reality.

This is how some of us view the majority of this world. Lost in a rage of consumption of resource. Renewable energies is no exception. Its an alternative, but the madness is still there.
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19 of 28
While PV costs have been reducing since the 1980s, PV prices will continue to increase for the forseeable future. April-may saw PV price stagnation, but Spain's new EEG variation PBI has caused demand to increase again, further driving up module prices. If the "Securing America's Energy Independence Act" legislation passes congress for the creation of a $3 per watt tax credit for both residential and commercial markets (with no sizing limit), prices will remain high for at least the next 18-24 months, (as this is the time it takes to bring new feedstock, wafer, cell, and module plants online).

Realistically though, with the passage of other Solar friendly legislation within the US market, i.e. the SOLAR Act, the National Renewable Portfolio Standard, and Carbon Regulation, as well as the increasing number of EU states passing feed-in tarrifs, and the possibility of China's need for modules to meet future kyoto type agreements, demand is likely to continue to skyrocket.
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20 of 28
May 28, 2007
I think it will be so great to have electricity from the sun. I know that lightening was natural. Soon they will probably have disposable solar panels made from plastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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21 of 28
Studies show between 18-24 months for a traditional crystalline module, double that for a complete installation... This number reduces every year, as technical efficiencies increase, i.e. less silicon needed per watt generated... Thin films are far less energy intensive.

I will do a literature review and repost with specific articles.
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22 of 28
May 29, 2007
It appears most of the world's PV panel production will soon come from China. Cheap electrical energy is a major input into that production. China generates most of their power with coal-fired power plants, using old, inefficient, and very polluting technologies.

Question - How many years of solar-power production will Chinese-made PV panels require to make up for all the CO2/SO2, etc. dumped in the atmosphere by those power plants producing power to make them?

If carbon-emission reduction is a main goal for PV, then we should look at lower carbon overhead for PV production, not lower $ cost, in looking at expanding PV production
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23 of 28
May 30, 2007
We have been down this road before, but the real cost of PV is "the installation cost" that has never come down and in proportion is getting to be the bigger piece of the pie. Just like when we get your car serviced---the parts are cheaper than the labor. So while my hope is the price of the PV will come down (based on the fact that there no shortage of material like now) then maybe society will be on the right path.
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24 of 28
May 31, 2007
Check it out and register now!
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Michael
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25 of 28
I agree about the cost of installation. On some 24k-30k jobs I have been quoted, the install quotes I have been getting very crazy. The Install breakdown comes to 10-15k in labor fees for a 2-3 day install job. What the hell? That's more tham most strippers make.

I killed my solar project when I noticed that the panel costs are low relative to the labor cost, this is just a rip-off and we are being taken advantage of. At the end of the day, I am trying to save money, not burn it away...

Who the heck lives in their property for 20 years anymore? That's how long it will take to see a dime of savings back at these install rates.

Until I can own 10,000kwh p/year [dark panel] solar system installed for under 15-20k, this solar idea is just not worth it.

2 cents,
F.
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26 of 28
June 4, 2007
Hi.
can anyboby tell me, what is the total installed cost of PV module to provide 10 KW power to my club?
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27 of 28
June 19, 2007
sobhit...anywhere from $70-110 grand...so many factors to consider tha t the range is going to be wide.
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Anonymous
October 3, 2011
The PV engineering will come from LED lights, LED T.T., lasers, computer chips, OLED lights and T.V. where the money
is. PV technology will follow with the high costs of fossil fuels. Subway electric and electric cars/buses that connect
will become much more popular as well as PV electricity.
PV works during day when power is in demand, less line loss
(6%), clean, and with shade value in summer give PV a nitch.
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