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CSI: Examining California's Ambitious Solar Program

By Stephen Lacey, Podcast Editor
March 26, 2007   |   11 Comments

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"Any time you start a new program, you're always going to have some issues...I think it's a pretty well designed program, but there are always hiccups when you start a new program."

-- Jan McFarland, Executive Director, Americans for Solar Power
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1 of 11
March 24, 2007
It is important to know how California seems to be working out the "bumps in the road" with Performance-Based formulas for PV.
I'm really interested in the various firms whom seem also to have various pending technological breakthroughs in PV.
I would like to see any higher efficiency PV's at the upcoming "Renewable Energy Roundup" in Fredericksburg TX next September. The best efficiency I saw last year was at 20 percent efficiency, but it was also priced that much higher comparatively as well. Interest wanes when the price per watt is the same at all the booths.
A Watt War would be really captivating, even if it was a show special price only.

Dan Petit.
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2 of 11
March 28, 2007
Having monopolistic, corporate utilities administer a solar rebate program is like having a fox running a daycare center for chicks.

We need independence from the bureaucratic entities that seem to want to put up as many roadblocks as possible to the solar solution. The Public Solar Commission is what we need.
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3 of 11
March 28, 2007
Why does it have to so complicated- because the utilities don't want individuals generating their own power. Next, people might start feeding themselves and gain way too much political power. I propose that all subsidies be removed and all energy sources be forced to clean up their filthy pollution or get fined. Let the technologies go head-to-head in the marketplace and Renewables will win every time.
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4 of 11
March 28, 2007
The new Edison TOU rate is a disaster for homeowners wanting solar and solar contractors alike. Our PV sales, and those of every other contractor we've heard from in SoCal, are pitiful so far this year. Some companies have already started laying people off.

We have finally dissected the byzantine TOU rates and can estimate a customer's total "On Peak" and "Off Peak" charges. The results are terrible. For the average SCE residential customer using 18 kWh/day, break-even is a 33% system. That means a system that offsets 33% of the annual usage will have NO effect on the annual bill. If the system is smaller than 33% the customer's bill will go up! The most cost-effective system size is 100%, which is NOT the case with tiered rates. Because of budgets and roof space many customers install small systems.

Comparing savings for a 53% system we installed last year with tiered rates to the same system using TOU rates. The annual dollar saving is 44% less!
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5 of 11
March 29, 2007
Not Fun Being a Start-Up Company in Solar Business

Until solar starts picking up speed, for any (small or established) solar business (both in CA, and even more so if in any of the other US States) the name of the game is SURVIVAL! For any start-up company, getting into any Solar (especially manufacturing) business is very, very hard. I know it for a fact, and getting a bit tired of it.
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6 of 11
March 29, 2007
Today and Tomorrow - Cont.

2. Tomorrow. For those of you not really familiar with the anticipated long-term energy scenario, see the second to last figure. Renewable Energy (RE), especially solar (solar PV, solar thermal, and wind power) is going to start playing a more and more essential role; if not here, most probably in some Asian Countries. California is to be congratulated for being the #1 (by far) in the US. I'm from Ohio, and my State (like most of the other US States) is only talking about it, but doing very little to encourage solar power. One of these days solar technologies are going to be in very high demand. Despite present problems (created, of course, by the Utility Companies) California will get it through, and will get its rewards, the way they already did it in semiconductors, Internet, etc.
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7 of 11
March 29, 2007
Today and Tomorrow:

To help my points, see:

http://www.openenergycorp.com/company/company_overview.php

1. Today. In regards to the last graph - See how the US PV market share has been declining since early 90's. No wonder why it is so hard to survive here and even harder for a new Company to get into the PV business. No wonder why SunPower, EverGreen Solar, Solar One have moved oversee. Hopefully, something will happen here soon, otherwise Asia will win again (the way they did in the displays, now in nanotechnologies, etc.). In time, Europe, most probably will follow in the foot steps of US; for better or worse ... which will it be? Anyone cares to anticipate?
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8 of 11
March 31, 2007
All of these stupid problems would have been avoided with a German style feed-in law. The residential market would not have come to a hold, there would be no time-of-use metering problems, and the commercial market would have more stability with kWh rates that are guaranteed for 20 years!

See a more in depth discussion at:
http://www.thinksunsmart.com/opinionpoll.htm
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9 of 11
April 5, 2007
Is the byzantine application process and TOU rates really the main reason for the drop in residential installs? I've talked to several potential customers who are waiting to see if the federal tax credits get approved. They say that they can afford a larger system with the credits and want to wait till they are a fact before buying a system.
I also wonder if its possible that the CitizenRE thing could actually be partly to blame for the residential slow down. Last count I saw said that there were ~10,000 people signed up...
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10 of 11
April 18, 2007
"Is the byzantine application process and TOU rates really the main reason for the drop in residential installs?"
The answer from this potential customer is YES. And the ongoing process described at http://calseia.org/csi-updates.html does not seem headed to a satisfactory solution. I reviewed the 12 page (SCE?) draft document "Time of Use Domestic Rates and Solar PV Systems March 27, 2007" ( TOUD-SolarPV-DRAFT.pdf ):
1. "Current" TOU-D rates on page 3 higher than our current SCE (mix of SCE and DWR) rates.
2. Draft 5-Tier TOU-D Rate", for each season, much higher than current D rates.
No way this restores the incentive for solar installation.
How can SCE conclude (p.12), these rates "compare favorably to Domestic bills" ??
Surely, control of this program must be taken from the utilities.
Only the option of plain vanilla net metering is a quick solution to this mess. The PUC could declare that all-day summer/winter rates constitute time (of year)-of-use rates.
... Al
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11 of 11
May 8, 2007
It definitely seems that for the TOU to be similar (or possibly better) than the tiered rates you have to be a fairly big power user who wants to generate most of all of their load.

Todd, is this really such a small percentage of customers though?

Is this hurting sales for people where it might not even hurt the bottom line, because of added complexity and uncertainty? I know there's already so many things to explain when making this sale, having to learn about this mess might just lead to the customer giving up.
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