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New Flywheel Technology Nears Commercial Production

January 17, 2007   |   10 Comments
Energy storage system designed to maintain grid reliability and help California meet ambitious renewable energy goals.

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"California has made a significant commitment to deploy renewable energy placing greater demands on the state's electric grid. Technologies such as Beacon's flywheel-based energy storage system provide attractive options to address these emerging issues."

-- John Geesman, California Energy Commission, commissioner
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1 of 10
January 17, 2007
Appears to be a good solution for VAR Management and for short term frequency regulation. Will it be possible to develop systems suitable for Wind Turbines ? Will it be cost effective on long term ?
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2 of 10
January 18, 2007
Actually, it's my understanding that these high-tech fly wheel energy storage systems are pretty much silent since the fly wheel is suspended in a vacuum via magnetic bearings (read: no medium to transfer vibrations to the housing).

Of course, so far these things only exist in labs, but maybe some day we'll see one in the real world (I haven't decided how optimistic I should be yet).
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3 of 10
January 18, 2007
Sorry to burst the bubble Dan Ost but I predict they will see the same problems of motor failure that we find in electric motors and something spinning at > 20K RPM has to be noisy.
Ever hear your hard drives turning? Thats about 5.4 K rpm.
I suppose they could dampen the noise with Isolation mats and dampening platforms but there is still the noise issues that make this a problem for back yard use.
Those are my thoughts on it. Hope when they bring it online they have this issue solved i really do.

D~W
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4 of 10
January 18, 2007
Compared to batteries, fly wheel storage generally has less energy density, but the capacity of the fly wheel doesn't deteriorate over time like batteries do. Therefore, in theory, in any situation that a fly wheel could technically replace a battery bank, it will be cheaper in the long run since it can be used indefinitely whereas the batteries need to be replaced or rebuilt periodically.

The same could be said about super-caps.

It has yet to be demonstrated that a reasonably priced fly wheel can be built with enough life expectancy and energy density to make this theory realizable.
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5 of 10
January 19, 2007
No mention of the efficiency of these units or their cost. It would seem the same results could be achieved with wind turbines which could come up to speed on their own, supply energy to the grid when the wind is adequate and be kept up to speed by "feathering" the blade pitch (and consuming some energy) to stabilize the grid during dips by returning energy.
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6 of 10
January 19, 2007
I have had short discussions with these guys about use with mid size pv systems. The Beacon flywheels exhaust their power in a fifteen minute period then need to be recharged, with is substantially longer than some other flywheels being worked up for the market as telecom backup power which exhaust their power in 90 seconds or less. So for nighttime commercial use for instance, several would have to be charged during the day and then staggered in discharge. According to Beacon they will deep cycle litterally thousands of times and in fact want to be discharged. My thought was to use as back up for community based system in lieu of battery pack. Does not seem feasible yet.
Fred Pittenger
Fred@Simplicitysolar.com
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7 of 10
January 19, 2007
A shipping container isn't exactly a "lab". They've run these test onsite at the ISOs in CA and NY, and basically as soon as the test results are in, supposing those results are good which all indications seem to point to, they'll be considered for production installations. So this is essentially out of the lab.

WRT hard drives they are noisy because they are spinning metal/glass platters that are highly resonant. If you've ever taken one apart you'll notice they make great wind chimes. As the primary bearings are magnetic levitation arrays, there is no wear. These should outlast batteries by quite a bit. Ultracaps may pose brutal competition to them, but these are much further along in the certification process -- by a matter of years -- and the big ultracaps are indeed not out of labs yet.
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8 of 10
January 20, 2007
these innovations are particularly usefull in CHP / microgrid systems which will become increasingly important as we push energy efficiency as much as we push alternative energy. It seems that the wind turbines and PVs are far more attractive to the (non technical) sustainability crowd and energy sellers.

It's an uphill battle, when you start talking about energy demand and cost effectiveness to them, they tend to loose interest while the engineers just call for another study which inevitively concludes that another study is called for,
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9 of 10
January 23, 2007
FYI:

On the other hand, advances in Li-Ion batteries have been coming along, and many foresee them actually being able to compete with lead-acid batteries in terms of cost, some optimistic estimates within 10 years.

Another neglected aspect of batteries wearing out is the charge regime. New grid-forming inverter technology, such as integrated into SMA's newer Sunny Islands, when combined with a diesel-backup, have had some striking successes in extending the battery life of offgrid systems by 2-3x (e.g. 12 years in one case)!

So don't count out batteries yet!
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10 of 10
January 23, 2007
Flywheels are *not* going to be replacing batteries in any foreseeable future... They are by their very nature *not* suitable for providing energy for an extended period of time (even flywheel manufacturers wouldn't dare claim otherwise: http://www.activepower.com/index.asp?pg=technology_typical_application ).

They have fantastic characteristics for short-discharge, high-power applications (e.g. compensating variability in wind-power outputs, increasing power quality, etc), but the inability to *deliver* the energy for an *extended period* of time is one of the main drawbacks. Sure the "staggering" is possible (Fred Pittinger's talk), but this would involve a crazy amount of them, and at what cost??
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