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The Future of Solar Power Lies in the Northeast

By Jonathan Klein, Founder of the Topline Strategy Group
December 27, 2006   |   27 Comments

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When a panel generates more electricity, the cost of that electricity falls because the fixed price of the equipment is spread across more kilowatt-hours. The Southwest does enjoy a tremendous sunlight advantage over the Northeast, making solar power less expensive in that region. However, the advantage does not come close to compensating for the difference in electricity rates.

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27 Reader Comments
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1 of 27
December 27, 2006
MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY - THE ENERGY EVOLUTION -R1

In order to insure energy and economic independence as well as better economic growth without being blackmailed by foreign countries, our country, the United States of America's Utilization of Energy sources must change. Our continued dependence on fossil fuels could and will lead to catastrophic consequences.

The federal, state and local government should implement a mandatory renewable energy installation program for residential and commercial property on new construction and remodeling projects with the use of energy efficient material, mechanical systems, appliances, lighting, etc. The source of energy must by renewable energy such as Solar-Photovoltaic, Geothermal, Wind, Biofuels, etc.
The implementation could be done on a gradual scale over the next 10 years.

Jay Draiman
Northridge, CA. 91325
12-27-2006
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2 of 27
December 28, 2006
I would like to see the numbers for Hawaii, which I think belongs on your table for lowest subsidies required (maybe even as number 1).

Aloha

Rolf Christ
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3 of 27
January 2, 2007
Niche Markets for Grid-Connected Photovoltaics:

http://www.asrc.cestm.albany.edu/perez/niche-market-1/nichepv.pdf
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4 of 27
January 3, 2007
If the government would just stop subsidizing fossil fuels we could all see the break even point is much closer. In fact nuclear is the heaviest subsidy power and also the most dangerous. Solar is already way ahead of most power produced when you add all the costs. Just read the Sierra magazine for this Month Jan 2007.
In fact I know solar pays I have a grid tied system on I instaled myself in 2001 with no net-metering and no incentives. It gives a 10% return on investment. I also now have the only net-metering in AZ from SRP which they started in Nov 2004. It just gets better.
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5 of 27
January 3, 2007
Performance based incentives are the answer in the north east.Call them feed in tariffs,standard offer contracts,what have you,the way to promote green energy production is to reward the owner of the system on a per kWh produced basis.The more you produce the more you earn-
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6 of 27
January 3, 2007
Lets talk about where youngs people can be trained to install PV the right way,....
for starters, Hudson Valley Community College in Troy NY has great programs including a new PV program which is tied to its 2 year degree in electricity.

Everyone deserves to make a decent living, and this degree will allow students to choose where they would like to live work and play.
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7 of 27
January 3, 2007
Solar Electric is an excellent source of power for the Northeastern United States. With state rebates and incentives throughout many states on the east coast it makes great economic sense.

What is needed is professionally trained solar installers. Solar Liberty offers NABCEP and state recognized installation courses from a NABCEP master trainer on a monthly basis.
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8 of 27
January 3, 2007
I believe Citizenre has a model that will work. Sam is right that the utilities should be jumping all over this, but for them it may not be profitable yet. That is where an innovative company like Citizenre can take advantage of the opportunity. Citizenre will be manufacturing their own equipment on a very large scale reducing upfront costs. They will also be able to take advantage of the REC's (green tags) that are generated from their installations. Much more will be announced this month. See what you think then. If you ever wanted to have PV for the principle of it, but could not afford it, now is your chance.
http://www.jointhesolution.com/energyindependence
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9 of 27
January 3, 2007
Who can trust a company selling no cost PV to homeowners and businesses. There is risk. The utility company should bear the responsibility of PV installations and maintenance; sort of like leaving it to the experts whom have been supplying power all along. We tried with LIPA on Long Island but they fell to the typical rebate program going on at the time in Ca. This half-assed attitude will always remain unless someone in power insists on mandatory utility sponsored no cost PV and efficiency measures. The true costs of PV manufacturing is much less than we think; new technologies such as Prism, nano and such offer our spirit for low cost and high quality. Let's run some numbers combining CFL's and PV for a homeowner and I'm sure any utility company can figure out a no cost solution.
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10 of 27
January 3, 2007
There is another thread on REA, about Citizenre claiming that it will offer solar panels for rent at the rate of current grid power in net-metered states, thereby obviating the investment by the homeowner. Its spokesman maintains that they are building a plant that will cut PV manufacturing costs in half. I have found no evidence of a plant being built, so...

My question: do you know about this? Ever heard of Citizenre? Is it pie in the sky, or is it feasible: to produce PV's at half cost, to rent at the current grid rate and make money for the company?

Is
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11 of 27
January 3, 2007
Advocating N.E. governments to match pv subsidies to levels provided by CA to its residents is flawed.

CA pv's generate 50% more power than the same system in N. E., due to more sunshine. Pv systems are currently a poor choice for public investment in N.E.

Better public policy for N.E. is to invest our money equally in:
1. Energy conservation technology
2. Wind
3. Small head hydro
4. Landfill gas
5. Solar hot water

As pv efficiencies increase and costs drop, 10 years +-, N.E. can then invest in them. We have limited money to invest in renewable energy and therefore must optimize watts per dollar.

CA is investing in pv because they have lots of sunshine and have large industries devoted to the manufacture and processing of silicon. For CA, pvs are a win win.

We have different opportunities in N.E. We need to study, develop, and build industries around them.

Thank you,
Aaron Pine
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12 of 27
January 3, 2007
What WalMart did today is a step in the right direction. Efficiency first, followed by on-site power. By selling discounted cfl's, awareness and affordability will create the desire for environmental responsibility. A packaged utility sponsored deal to the homeowner or small business owner to install PV, lighting, more efficient HVAC without upfront costs. Does this make me a Democrat?
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13 of 27
January 3, 2007
Jonathan : Do you have any data available that shows how the numbers crunch for New Jersey ? If so I would very much like to see it, thank you.
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14 of 27
January 3, 2007
BRAVO! This relatively simple economic analaysis makes an impressive argument for rapid expansion of net metering programs. If a relatively small subsidy shift is all that is needed, compensating net metered customers at the retail rate of electricty and linking net metering to state RPS mandates through a robust REC trading market may provide homeowners and small businesses with just enough "subsidy" to tip the balance.

Another idea is to subsidize interconnected, inverter-based solar systems that provide reactive power to the grid. States could characterize it as compensation rather than a subsidy.

Chris Cooper
Network for New Energy Choices
www.NewEnergyChoices.org
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15 of 27
January 3, 2007
We at Opel, Inc. agree with Mr. Klein's article on solar power in the Northeast. Opel is in the business of concentrated solar panels and therefor can greatly lower the cost of a 1M or 10M solar installation to the point where is makes money! Connecticut now offers a rebate of $5/W for installations up to $4M max. Commercial is where we are focusing and we are in Connecticut, although we have customers in the Southwest and Ontario too.
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16 of 27
January 3, 2007
MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY - THE ENERGY EVOLUTION -R2

In order to insure energy and economic independence as well as better economic growth without being blackmailed by foreign countries, our country, the U.S.A's Utilization of Energy sources must change.
"Energy drives our entire economy." We must protect it. "Let's face it, without energy the whole economy and economic society we have set up would come to a halt. So you want to have control over such an important resource that you need for your society and your economy."
Our continued dependence on fossil fuels could and will lead to catastrophic consequences.

The federal, state and local government should implement a mandatory renewable energy installation program for residential and commercial property on new construction and remodeling projects with the use of energy efficient material. The source of energy must by renewable energy such as Solar-Photovoltaic etc.
Jay Draiman
Northridge, CA. 91325
1-3-2007
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17 of 27
January 3, 2007
Herein lies the truth. Nice job, Jonathan. The answer to mass mini powerplants feeding daytime power back into the grid needs to come from the utility companies. I have always preached for the "seamless transition" model whereas the utility companies install, maintain and use the power when required most for relatively no cost to the consumer. In addition, the utility company locks its customer for 10-15 years. Now that is environmental responsibility working together by and between the dreaded power company and the 21st century end user. Thanks Jonathan for reintroducing us to the future. Sam Salamay, BGA Engineering
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18 of 27
January 3, 2007
*It will be another decade before it reaches the break *even point --

Ten more years of fossil fuel price increases before solar panels reach a break even point. Yup, that seems about right ...

Tim Gard
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19 of 27
January 3, 2007
A project by Westmoreland county's conservation district in Greensburg showed that solar power was more reliable on a day-to-day basis in Pennsylvania compared to wind. They convinced me via their small-scale experiment the past few years that solar is the way to go in PA on the small scale even with our overcast conditions! Of course the cost is prohibitive at first...we certainly do need subsidies and grants to get things going.
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20 of 27
January 3, 2007
Mr. Klein:

I read your current article, "The Future of Solar Power Lies in the Northeast" with interest and a little incredulity. Your second chart's Sunlight Index values seem optomistically skewed compared with NREL's US solar map for PVs (http://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/us_pv_annual_may2004.jpg). Your chart shows only a 20% difference between New York and California's annual radiation, while 40% is shown on the NREL chart. New York's climate consists of a much higher percentage of overcast conditions, not to mention the atmospheric attenuation in sunlight in winter months due to its higher latitude. Could you provide the source of your Sunlight index?

Thank you.
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21 of 27
January 3, 2007
How will all this PV power being sugested to power homes and the business sector as far as Vegas offset the rising cost of gas used to heat all the hot water tanks in all the new homes in Vegas, answer a quality solar water heating collector on each roof, which bypasses the gas meter.
Solar water heating unlike large PV arrays fed into the grid is to cheap to meter, that I am sure is why solar water heating is still in the dark ages compared to europe where homes owners are using 100% of there own money with no tax breaks to offset the rising cost of gas, heating oil and power.
Will the American people when they receive this solar power energy start to see lower bills? I doubt it.
The only energy which is free is when the appliance producing it has been purchased by the home owner.

Eric Hawkins CEO of Powertech Solar Ltd UK
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22 of 27
January 3, 2007
New York currently has incentives of $4.00-4.50/watt for PV in addition to a state tax credit and the federal tax credit. Subsidized loans are also available for PV. You can find out what state and federal incentives are available for renewable energy and energy efficiency at http://www.dsireusa.org/

Mike Kingsley
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23 of 27
January 4, 2007
Expired 1984 patent # 4588571 teaches "good enough" purification of sand with acid-washing.

Expired 1983 patent # 4457903 teaches "good enough" purification of silicon with scrap aluminum and cheap slag.

Expired 1986 patent # 4572812 teachs electromagnetic casting of silicon into polycrystal ingots.

Combined these three patents do the hardest 50% and the costliest 60% of the job of going to solar cells from sand at a cost of $0.06 (six cents) per watt for principle materials and energy up to cast ingot stage. Sawing and finishing is a piece of cake, as easy as falling off a log.

One state-of-the-art EMC furnace can output 600 meters squared of cell stock ingots per 24/hr day.

N.E. doesn't need to invest in PV in N.E. -- they need to invest in PV in the parts of 8 Southwestern states that get 6 kWhs/day peak sunshine or better. Put your money where it can produce $0.30/watt finished PV panels using clean sunlight to run the furnaces.

Read more: http://H2-PV.us/wiki/
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24 of 27
January 7, 2007
We don't pay $.16 per KW in Massachusetts for electric. I'm around $.09 in Worcester, MA; so this may not be an accurate appraisal and add in the sunshine quotient and it makes this look suspect.
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25 of 27
January 7, 2007
Do you want to compare solar radiation data of different regions? Think SunSmart offers free regional maps of solar energy - in real time! Want to know how much radiation was there last month? See http://www.thinksunsmart.com
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26 of 27
January 17, 2007
large scale is the way to go.but in the mean time,is there such a thing as a window mounted solar unit that can be weired into an outlet (no batteries involved)and power (one item at a time mabey)a toaster,recharge a cell phone and run a coffie pot,mabey a small space heater during those cold winter days for short bursts? no i am not out of my mind. but such a small device would make me feel like i am being socialy active, cut my bills a little bit and be a good way to teach my son that solar can work. i would pay up to $500 for a device like this. educational and slightly useful.
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27 of 27
June 8, 2008
Our war for energy independence and economic sustainability

The US government and other governments are not serious about energy efficiency and renewable energy development and implementation – they are too busy playing politics and capitulating to the Oil Companies.
IT is time to get series to avert an economic catastrophe – I hope it is not too late
The world needs to invest $50 trillion in energy in coming decades, building some 1,400 nuclear power plants and vastly expanding wind power, solar power, geothermal energy in order to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, according to an energy study released Friday.
The report by the Paris-based International Energy Agency envisions an "energy revolution" that would greatly reduce the world's dependence on fossil fuels while maintaining steady economic growth.
"Meeting this target of 50 percent cut in emissions and replacing fossil fuel represents a formidable challenge, and we would require immediate policy action and technological transition on an unprecedented scale," IEA Executive Director Nobuo Tanaka said.
The scenario for deeper cuts would require massive investment in energy technology development and deployment, a wide-ranging campaign to dramatically increase energy efficiency, and a wholesale shift to renewable sources of energy.
Assuming an average 3.4 percent global economic growth over the 2010-2050 period, governments and the private sector would have to make additional investments of $50 trillion in energy, or 1.2 percent of the world's gross domestic product, the report said.
That would be an investment more than three times the current size of the entire U.S. economy.
In addition, the world would have to construct 38 new nuclear power plants each year, and wind-power turbines would have to be increased by 18,000 units annually, solar energy output would have to be increased 20 fold every year.
Let us not forget as we are increasing the use of renewable energy and energy eff
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