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Polluted Sites Nationwide Could Become Biofuels Proving Grounds

August 17, 2006   |   7 Comments

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A secondary objective is to examine whether the growing plants actually contribute to bioremediation, meaning they take up contaminants from the soils, without affecting their quality for use in biofuels.
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August 17, 2006
I read that in another country, crops are being used to remove contaminants from soil because certain plants concentrate hazardous chemicals. I think it was on a greenpeace website. I do not remember if the plants were then used for any other purpose.

Even water plants (water lilys) can be used to economically extract pollutants from contaminated water. However, I do not have sufficient knowledge as to determine whether any type of vegetation containing high amounts of pollutants could be safely used to produce biodiesel.

If, during the processing of the plant material, the contaminants could be removed, I would see no obstacle.

adrianakau@aol.com
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August 17, 2006
Buddy I am with you. I do not think it is a smart option for them to do but this is the smart option to clean up a super-fund sight of it's contaminates.
If the first plants are removed and burned at 3000 degrees F in an O2 less environment i think they can deal with the waste correctly. This might help clean up Lead and Mercury contaminated soils as well as PCB contaminated soils.
Now they remove the contaminated top soil and ship it to a waste site for it. Which to me is worst , they take it out of one pocket and put it into another. My way the problem is solved.
Hope it makes sense.
D~W
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August 17, 2006
Is this smart? If these brownfields are contaminated and the crops are capable of taking up contaminants from the soils, then are we considering burning the result in IC engines?

Unless the reformation process is capable of removing all the contaminants from the fuel, (and then they are disposed of properly), this sounds bad.
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August 18, 2006
It sounds like they just plan to use brown sites for studies, not for mass production. There are not enough brown sites to make a meaningful difference in actual production.
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August 18, 2006
If the existing plants as well as the new crops are used as feedstock for the production of syngas through gasification there shouldn't be any problem with contamination. Scrubbers during the gasification process will remove their molecular components from the syngas.

The syngas can be used to help generate electricity and even be used to convert to ethanol and other "green" chemicals and products.

I think the process of fertilization and cultivation of these "brownfields" will, over time, clear the topsoil of pre-existing toxins.

http://bioconversion.blogspot.com
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August 18, 2006
My daughter in law used to work on bioremediation ( which doenst make me an expert!). Primary problem was getting the damn plants to grow on the heavily polluted sites. Once you have done that hopefully the plant concentrates the pollutant somewhere easy to concentrate futher. Then if you have a high enough concentration you hope there is an industrial ( often mining) process which will do something useful with the ash. If you are going for biofuels there are probably going to be cleaning processes, which may need enhancement. However overall , if the government has standards for biodiesel quality, these problems will either be solved by the smart guys working on them, or they wont be able to sell their product. If government standards are badly thought out then worry about pollution, because no commercial organisation is going to waste money cleaning up when they dont need to.
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August 23, 2006
Nice discussion since we have targeted a 66 acre brownfield at the Brunswick Naval Air Station and plan to revitalize it with byproducts from our bio-mass refineries and manure gasifier; eventually growing grasses suitable for one of the bio-refineries.

Even oil spills can be reduced by microbacteria; but it appears we need to set standards based on a toxic waste analysis. Plants can produce toxic substances as any visitor to a poison ivy infested island will understand.

If one sets these hurdles too high; then nothing gets done. Enormous quantities of soil are removed and carted somewhere else. What was accomplished?

I think organic lifeforms can cleanse soils over time; but we need to discuss how much and how long before we start digging up everyone's 'contaminated' flower and vegetable gardens.
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