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America and Brazil Intersect on Ethanol

By Richard Lugar and Roberto Abdenur
May 15, 2006   |   15 Comments

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"It makes strategic sense to import environmentally friendly ethanol from a reliable friend like Brazil in our own hemisphere. After all, the United States doesn't tax imported crude oil, which pollutes and often comes from unstable suppliers."

- Richard Lugar and Roberto Abdenur

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15 Reader Comments
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1 of 15
May 15, 2006
I believe that we still must consider the issue of sugar cane land soil depletion over time. In Papua, it took several decades and in Cuba, it was over a much longer period of time. Supporting an ethanol market for two continents is bound to place a strain on Brazilian soil.

In the US with corn, we face the problem of pollluting the lowlands and swamps with chemicals as in the case of Florida.

Finally, we must realize that burning ethanol means the production of large amounts of carbon dioxide.

Politically, the move from oil dependency becomes a move to alcohol dependency. We really remain energy dependent by our actions.

Changing climate may cause uneven production levels. Right now in Hawaii, we suffer poi shortages because strong recent rains have affected our taro crop.

I favor a PHEV approach with wind turbines supplying the power.

adrianakau@aol.com
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2 of 15
May 17, 2006
I hear the nay sayers,but anything we do to reduce to our dependence on imported oil has to be good.The use of which dramaticly reduces polution,puts our farmers to work and off of government subsidies.If the infrastructure is ever developed and engines are designed to run on ethanol only mileage and efficiency would be comparable.
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3 of 15
May 17, 2006
Here is how the New York Times describes ethanol usage:
Federal Recipe for Gasoline Helped Drive Up the Price -New York Times May 6,2003
"the new gasoline recipe contains less energy, mileage per gallon is declining"

"Ethanol, which is made from corn, costs more than gasoline, though, and shipping it from the Midwest, where it is made, is cumbersome and expensive, because it has to go by barge, railroad tank car or tanker truck, rather than pipeline."

"Ethanol is pricey and energy-poor. Its price is up by about $1.30 a gallon in the last year, in part because of heavy demand for something to replace MTBE. But ethanol has only about two-thirds as much energy as MTBE does."
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4 of 15
May 17, 2006
A HIGH PERFORMANCE FUEL
Ethanol is most commonly used to increase octane and improve the emissions quality of gasoline. In some areas of the United States, ethanol is blended with gasoline to form an E10 blend (10% ethanol and 90% gasoline), but it can be used in higher concentrations such as E85 or E95. Original
equipment manufacturers produce flexible-fuel vehicles that can run on E85 or any other combination of ethanol and gasoline.
Ethanol's high octane content helps your car run more smoothly. Ethanol keeps a car's fuel system clean for optimal performance.
* Gasoline blended with up to 10% ethanol is approved under the warranties
of all auto manufacturers marketing vehicles in the U.S. Many even
recommended ethanol because of its clean air benefits. Approval of ethanol blends is found in the owners' manuals under references to refueling or gasoline.
Giulio Negrini
www.gnpimb.com
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5 of 15
May 17, 2006
If the US already is profitably producing almost as much ethanol as Brazil, what possible impact is there currently? Do we want to hurt the American ethanol pioneers?

Maybe the real impact is later, when (if?) cellulosic becomes practical, then Brazilians can cut down the rain forests even faster, and produce ethanol to compete with American cellulosic ethanol producers who will have to pay 3x the salary of a Brazilian producer. And Exxon will be able to increase their margins by using Brazilian rather than American ethanol. Great idea if you are a globalist energy power.

William Hoffman
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6 of 15
May 17, 2006
Mr. Spreyer,
I agree with your partnership between Hawaii and Brasil.
Hawaii could benefit from recovering it's sugar cane industry once again.
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7 of 15
May 17, 2006
is it possible to have a celulose to ethanol plant at landfills in large megatropolis areas like LA or NY? In LA the green waste is collected seperately from household trash, so that could obviate the need to "grow" the biofuel or at least supplement it. could someone set me straight if i'm thinking incorrectly about this?
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8 of 15
May 17, 2006
While ethanol may be a valuable fuel additive it is unlikely to make a dent in our use of imported petroleum. The DOE has said that if all the agricultural land was planted in corn, ethanol could only provide 7% of our fuel needs, and bio diesel only 10-15%. The only viable alternative energy sources are conservation (unlikely) and "clean" coal-to-oil. Solar and wind could help by replacing the oil (16%) and natural gas (41%) we use to generate electricity; and what about the oil and natural gas we heat with, and cook with? What is needed is a comprehensive energy independence plan, utilizing all our energy resources in an effective way.
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9 of 15
Let's fprm some partnerships between Brazil and Hawaii combining ethanol, hybrid autos and sugar. They can learn from each other.
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10 of 15
May 17, 2006
what will this mean for the amazon rainforest? evenmore destruction to plant sugar-cane, added to that of soya? if, as it says above, ethanol emits high amounts of CO2, then this, coupled with the burning of the rainforest and the elimination of trees has got to be a no-go scenario in the context of winning the war on climate terror
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11 of 15
May 17, 2006
Attributing Brazil's self-sufficiency in oil to ethanol is a complete and total falsehood. In the early 1980s after the introduction of ethanol the government realized that ethanol did not reduce Brazil's demand for petroleum products. A major investment was made in onshore and off shore exploration and major finds of domestic crude oil has enabled to Brazil to become self-sufficient as their crude processing increased from one million BPD of imported crude to two million BPD of domestic crude. Ethanol production in Brazil is still subsidized by the government as it is not cost competitive with gasoline.
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12 of 15
May 17, 2006
Biofuels look really good to me. They enable us to stretch our existing investments in automotive engineering and liquid fuel distribution for several more decades. We can steadily reduce our current burning of buried hydrocarbons by converting to a sustainable recycling of carbon through various biological systems. Meanwhile, we can also develop batteries or ultracapacitors or nanogenerators to the point where they enable electric vehicles people can afford and want to buy.
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13 of 15
May 18, 2006
With all the violence presently going on in Sao Paulo, one might come to the conclusion that Brazil may be on the brink of a civil war with so many killed, especially policemen. Brazil may be politically unstable to deal with if this situation should continue. Depending upon a reliable source of ethanol from them may be a mistake under these conditions.

Earlier this month, President Morales of Bolivia took control of all (26) foreign oil and gas fields. The conditions in South America do not look promising for energy reliance as some of the leaders (Chavez in Venezuela included) feel that it is now time for their countries to assert themselves in the energy sector. They may well be justified in their stance.

adrianakau@aol.com
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14 of 15
May 18, 2006
Hawaiian cane-to-ethanol is unfortunately, a trap. Hawaii can't even produce sugar economically, so refining to ethanol plus transport has got to possess even worse economics.

Our only ultimate hope lies in cellulose fermentation technology. The Brazilians are studying this, too. That's where a partnership between the two coutnries may pay off for both, since no one else is putting as much effort into this.
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15 of 15
May 19, 2006
Buying Brazilian or other South/Central American fuel might just elevate a few of their poor up out of their situation. That's a social issue. Fed's could REQUIRE ethanol be at 10% blend, and offer the olive branch of a tariff to the point that theres tariff income, but doesn't cripple the movement of fuel to the USA. The 10% blend requirement pushes demand, and the US producers will see room to grow, with 8 billion gallons or so shortfall. The tariff money could even be turned around and used for R &D to make fuel production more efficient. Growing crops has an enviromental impact. ANYTHING we do, does. But to drive to Wally World 6 days a week, then demand a farmer 2000 miles away not cut down a tree, is hypocracy. We COULD share farming techniques with them, and remind ourselves, there's less invasive/cheaper/more effiencent ways to grow feedstocks for fuel. But that means getting off our ass and doing it, and that's an energy shortage we haven't addressed either.
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