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West Wing's Ethanol Problem

By David Morris, AlterNet
February 7, 2005   |   14 Comments

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"The level of incentives for ethanol, an infant industry with enormous growth opportunities, doesn't come close to those paid to oil, a mature industry whose fuel source is running out. "

- David Morris, RE Insider

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14 Reader Comments
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1 of 14
February 7, 2005
The government effectively mandated the use of either MTBE, noted as bad, or ethanol, a drinkable compound with about 60% of the gas mileage of gasoliine and that causes an increase in NoX and PM10 (the real small stuff that sticks to your lungs) relative to gasoline, by the CAA pushed by Bush I. Stupid governmet influenced by selfish lobbyists for MTBE and ethanol passing stupid laws. Get rid of both.
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2 of 14
February 7, 2005
Great article. I appreciate that you tell us what ethanol is. Often times articles forget to define their topic for readers who may not be familiar with the subject matter. I hope this article gets read by the writers of the West Wing.

Jessi Callihan
Borrego Solar Systems
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3 of 14
February 7, 2005
I sincerely hope that all of you pro-ethanol people do not do what the pro-MTBE people did when they approved the unrestricted use of MTBE. It did away with one pollution problem and caused another which has given it a death sentence. I think that we have the ability to utilize both and to solve the problems of air emissions for one and groundwater issues for the other. All industries need to put politics aside and together make a product that does not hurt the public drinking water and breathing clean air.
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4 of 14
February 8, 2005
Why can't anyone in this country acknowledge that all ethanol fuels are not the same. The International Energy Agency has stated ethanol produced from sugar cane in Brazil is competitive to gasoline (at $20 per barrel oil), half the cost of ethanol produced in the U.S. from lower-yielding grain crops like corn, and one-fourth the cost from smaller grains like wheat in Europe. Brazil allows sugar cane farmers to cogenerate electricity at 3 cents per kilowatt-hour by burning the waste. Why not America? The answer is utility monopolies.
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5 of 14
February 8, 2005
In a totally random search to investigate the claims made by "Guest User", I blundered across this paper by Mr. Morris written in 2000. http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org/library/admin/uploadedfiles/Other_Gasoline_Crisis_Speeding_Up_the_Shift_Fr.htm

It concludes that the use of additives is largely unimportant in improving/degrading air quality. I'd like to know of the findings reported in the article are still supported by field data/current thinking on the issue.

Mr Morrise?

Cheers,

Tripp
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6 of 14
February 9, 2005
Based on the Audubon article it seems that there are some differences of opinion in the peer-reviewed studies (USDA vs David Pimentel). Does anyone have any links to these studies? The latest paper that is mentioned on David Pimentel's faculty page is 1994. Surely there must be more recent analysis available. I think it's important to get down to real base facts. This is attempted in both of these articles but not to the extent desired. For instance when David Morris talks about ethanol being a net energy producer he is not specific enough. The oil refineries must use energy to operate just as the ethanol refineries do… but how much comparatively? Is it possible to run the ethanol refineries on corn alone?
On the storage point, is it possible that the "wacky" idea of storage being a nightmare based on the separation problem listed in the Audubon article? I doubt it came out of nowhere.
I'm staying neutral on this until I get more information.
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7 of 14
February 9, 2005
Ethanol is not so sustainable or benign as Mr. Morris wants readers to think. Check out another excellent ethanol article at http://magazine.audubon.org/incite/incite0408.html
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8 of 14
February 9, 2005
Tripp,

Cars are getting cleaner. Thus additives of any kind have less impact on air quality. Ethanol, like MTBE, is also an octane enhancer.

Fred,

You can go to our web site, www.newrules.org and click on the Energetics of Ethanol and it has links to several of the major studies on both sides. As for the production plants being bad neighbors, well, they are industrial manufacturing plants. It is not the production of ethanol that may cause a problem but the drying of the byproduct, high protein animal feed. But this is small, possibly an odor problem and therefore a reason to avoid an urban neighborhood based ethanol facility.
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9 of 14
February 9, 2005
Etanol is a great gasoline substitute and it does require a lot of energy to produce. If you produce another product at the same time you cost falls and efficiency rises. Hayes, Kansas has a new natural gas fired electric powerplant that uses the heat from the turbines to brew ethanol. This is not the only co generation process that works. Our goal is to reduce petroleum consumption. We need to conserve and utilize all the alternatives to break our oil addiction. Thank you
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10 of 14
February 9, 2005
I think we need some numbers to analyze this more intelligently:
1) Embodied energy: What are the mean average BTUs consumed per BTU delivered and the range of calculated BTUs consumed per BTU delivered recently from the "20 peer reviewed studies"? What were they in 1990? In 1980?
2) Embodied dollars: What are the recent mean average costs per delivered gallon of ethanol and the range of calculated costs from the "20 peer reviewed studies"? What were they for 1990 and 1980?
3) How do these costs compare to costs of the "Negawatts" (Negagallons?) involved, i.e. the avoided costs of any more efficient possibilities?
4) Actually, I'd read a letter in Home Power that it's the production plants that are the more likely environmental "bad neighbors" in this energy stream. Anybody know of articles or studies on this?
Thanks.
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11 of 14
February 10, 2005
I am looking at investing in a company that will market a genetically modified corn seed so that the corn crop will grow its own amylase and other enzmes required for the entire corn crop - stover and ears - to be convereted to ethanol. These enzymes would be dormant until a "switch" was turned on in the ethanol plant. They claim that such a system used in corn or switchgrass could make ethanol competitive with gasoline without an ethanol subsidy in maybe five years. Any opinions before I invest?
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12 of 14
February 11, 2005
Ethanol is an excellent fuel alternative. Fortunately, corn is not the only feedstock to produce it. Cellulose, sugar yielding plants, and many other grains can be used to produce ethanol. We are quite a ways from determining the best combinations of all sources to fully optimize ethanol without compromising the integrity of our wildlife and natural resources. I think that diversity of ethanol feedstocks will ultimately reveal its suitability and desirability in replacing petroleum based fuels.
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13 of 14
February 15, 2005
Ethanol has been said to be an alternative fuel that will reduce our dependence on mideast oil... I just wish the real "West Wing" in D.C. would pay less attention to ethanol and war and focus more attention on solar energy, wind energy, and more fuel efficient cars.

The priorities of this administration are truly backwards.
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14 of 14
March 19, 2005
Ethanol is one of the most subsidized fuels in the US, yet it still costs more than gasoline.
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