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Ethanol Research Breakthrough: Wood Feedstock

February 9, 2005   |   34 Comments

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"You can also extract these components from grasses, but grasses go dormant in the winter and they're difficult and expensive to store for use in a year-round process. And trees are dense. They can be shipped and stored economically, and they are more efficient energy collectors than annual crops. After the desired components are extracted, the residue can be burned or gasified for combined heat and power uses."

- Dr. Thomas E. Amidon
34 Reader Comments
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1 of 34
February 9, 2005
Is deforestation really a good way to reduce US oil dependency? Traditional forestry techniques are not noted for their long term benefits in terms of biodiversity, land degredation, etc. If ethanol is produced much more efficiently from wood than corn (in terms of source material energy density and the cost of processing), then it sounds like a good idea to produce ethanol from wood. However, as mentioned in the article, that wood should come from biomass plantations, not from native forests.
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2 of 34
February 10, 2005
Wood would not come from deforestatoin but rather from wood waste in industry AND waste from proper forest management by pruning forests for best growth. 99% of available wood waste is simply left to rot on the forest floor.
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3 of 34
February 10, 2005
Etanol production from dead or damaged trees (forest fire or insect infested areas) would be a great improvement to forest health and a needed new revenue stream for forest landowners and timber harvesters. Any use of an "unused or wasted" renewable resource that would help lessen our dependence on a finite resource (oil or natural gas) would certainly be valuable to all concerned, and to the environment and the economy.
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4 of 34
February 10, 2005
For a Swedish visitor at this site it is hard to comprehend this aversion to forestry and forestry products. New trees are planted and they grow back. In Sweden there is a new pilote plant for production of ethanol from forestry residues (in Ornskoldsvik). Contact Jan Lindstedt at www.baff.se for more information./Kjell Andersson, Svebio, Swedish Biomass Association (www.svebio.se).
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5 of 34
February 11, 2005
I would be curious to know if they have considered black locust tree as a feedstock. Not only is it a nitrogen-fixing legume with an early growth habit faster than any other northern biomass crop tree, but it also contains appreciable amounts of ethanol as an extractive chemical (~5% dry matter). Fiber characteristics are also favorable. Planted like alfalfa in high densities it can be harvested twice per year as a very short rotation coppice crop, or thinned and allowed to coppice for standard SRC ie 2-5 years. Intercropping with other crops could reduce pressure on forestry reserves while maximizing per acre/year production.
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6 of 34
February 11, 2005
Previous comments well taken. Current reforestation methods produce forests which are inferior to old growth forests. If society is willing to pay the additional costs involved in selective cutting rather than clear cutting, biomass plantations could be a good deal. Waste wood use, is, of course, a no-brainer. Bear in mind the CO2 emissions from ethanol use. If we shift fuel use to only those applications which MUST use liquid fuel (i.e. aviation) and shift autos and trains to electric, ethanol from wood could put us well on the way to sustainability.
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7 of 34
February 12, 2005
In all of these "biomass" utilization technologies I find that the energy equation is always missing.
In other words, does energy out exceed total energy in?

Ihor
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8 of 34
February 13, 2005
What's their aversion to methanol??
It seems that it is a little more votile
but hey so is octane, you know?
They're bringin obtuseness to new heights
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9 of 34
February 13, 2005
The article says "Ordinary wood chips are mixed with water and heated at high temperatures for a specified length of time."

What is the overall net energy gain in the conversion process? If the energy input is per tree is a significant portion of the energy in the tree, it's probably a losing proposition. We probably don't want to chop down a tree just to get a percentage of the tree's energy in a desireable format and, in the process, expend a lot of lower quality energy and throw more smoke and heat into the atmosphere. Unfortunately, the article doesn't discuss this important factor.
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10 of 34
February 14, 2005
Agreed with all of the above comments - I'm certainly not opposed to harnessing waste wood, or to using properly managed biomass plantations or forestry management projects. But as "guest user" mentioned above, re-forested areas are cleary inferior to natural forest areas - replanted by the least expensive bidder, they lack in species diversity, and all of the forest infrastructure that comes from the natural process of growth through succession. Additionally, most deforested areas suffer significant damage before they are replanted - nutrient leaching, soil loss, etc. Anyway, good comment from the other guest user on net energy gain from the process - that's what I was trying to ask, phrased a lot more poorly, in my original post...
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11 of 34
February 15, 2005
To the person from the Swedish Biomass Association they should understand that North Americans are not as enlightend in terms siliviculture and reforestation as Scandinavians. If one takes the Train (Linx) from Oslo-Malmo, the logging seen is done in the ways that Canadians can heardly dream of. Also, Scandinavian forestry is execelent in the production of forest products and also in ensuring that the endangered species lists grow in a logarithmic fashion. I think we should only use biomass that is already waste rather than use more land in a periods were we are in what is called the 3rd great extinction. Lets look at wave energy and wind energy and leave the forests for better uses than for fuel production.

Hedo
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12 of 34
February 15, 2005
Another example of PR for an untried concept. Academics marketing their pet project. Noted the "testing phase" escape term. A wood to ethanol breakthrough? Hello. Let's see the mass-energy balance. Wood-to-EtOH processes simply cannot compete with wood-to-paper and wood-to-other higher added value products. Wood (energy) plantations are non-starters. Wood wastes are left, unreliable sources for a 365/24/7 plant.
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13 of 34
February 15, 2005
Why burn or breakdown the wood into fuel when it can be used as a carrier (like hydrogen) of energy from other sources like solar or geothermal as in:
www.EnergyWithoutOil.org
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14 of 34
February 16, 2005
Ethanol from cellulous is happening now. One company in Canada, www.iogen.ca, just shipped ethanol from its pilot refinery to Shell, who mixed it into an E85 blend (85% ethanol/15% gasoline) and sent it to Germany. There, VW and Mercedes ran test cars and pronounced the results great. Iogen's process uses genetically engineered enzymes to digest the cellulouse from any source in a highly efficient process. Corn to ethanol has about a 1.2 energy return (1.2 back from 1 input). The Iogen process has about a 3 to 1 return and lower costs and disposal problems. Shell has bought 70% of the company and is moving forward. If hybrid cars reduced the gasoline consumption to 50% of current levels and they were fueled with E85 further reducing the crude oil import, where's the Oil Crisis? US and Canada is the Saudi Arabia of cellulous.
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15 of 34
February 16, 2005
If you want to see an effective means of producing ethanol from wood waste, look at the following web site: www.brienergy.com
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16 of 34
February 16, 2005
And how is the waste stream from this process handled? -- added to the general question: What is the energy balance?
www.CorpFutRes.com
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17 of 34
February 16, 2005
It's about time we start thinking more about ethanol. I don't believe the article was about deforestization - more in the terms of using what is already being discarded anyways - when all the oil is gone, I hope you tree huggers hold on tight because that tree is going to have to heat your house, drive your car, and light your house in the future, there is little doubt in that. Ethanol is becoming more efficient in terms of the energy to energy ratio everyday and if hydrogen is your answer, that may be true 10 years from now. Ethanol is now so lets get that perfected first.
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18 of 34
February 19, 2005
The naysayers need to understand that this is a fractionalization technology which separates and recovers a value-added product pre-process as opposed to a post-process waste recovery ie black liquor methanol. Wood sugar/alcohol would merely be wasted if this technology wasn't used prior to the pulping or biomass combustion processes. Paper-making is a net energy sink thus energy balance is irrelevant while biomass energy is typically limited to low-value bulk BTU which the higher quality mobile ethanol biofuel increases.

This is similiar to fractionating sugar cane into juice for non-ruminant feed and the bagasse for ruminant feed, or alfalfa into high-protein leafmeal for animal feed and high-fiber stem for biofuel.
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19 of 34
February 19, 2005
Tembec has a small sulfite pulp mill in Temiskaming Quebec that has produced 18 million litres of 95% ethanol from primary pulp sludge for a great many years.

see : http://www.tembec.ca/DynamicPortal?key=web&lng=en-US&crit=products_chemical_ethanol&page=tpl_products

ihor43us, February 12, 2005 - on using black locust as a nitrogen fixative has some merit when it comes to establing/improving stands of more desirable tree species. Speckled Alder aluns rugosa is another small shrub with nitrogen ffixative feature and grows naturally much futher north.
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20 of 34
February 19, 2005
Dear Mr Kjell Andersson
I could not find any information regarding what you mentioned in top(second comment which you wrote).I searched the site ,but it seems that your purpose was to introduce the company which you wanted to advertise for it.Please send me an emai and let me know of a new pilot plant for production of ethanol.
Best wishes
ali from Yazd University in Iran
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21 of 34
February 19, 2005
I admire you because of your effort in order to gain ethanol from wood.We all must consider that there are many waste woods in nature which we can use them in order to produce ethanol.
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22 of 34
February 19, 2005
I have a question...Can you use the wood from Deconsturction of homes and buildings? A lot of it is crushed on site from bulldozing and can not be use much for anything besides the landfill or incineration. This would help in the recycling of buildings and the achieving a zero waste society.
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23 of 34
March 1, 2005
Keep in mind the following:
1. In the natural world, "waste" wood either burns in fires, or, more often supports whole communities of decomposers. Remove the "waste" wood, and the effect on decomposers may have unforseen consequences
2. Wood is not just cellulose and lignan - it contains minerals that the tree expended energy to extract (via fungi) from soils. If you use the cellulose, you should return the minerals to help the next generation of trees.
3. It is best in my mind to use existing crop land as the primary energy producer rather than forests. Most Americans, at least, eat too much already!
4. Heat and pressure for depolymerizing cellulose can be obtained by pumping a cellulose-water-acid mixture down a 3-4 mile deep borehole. The GeneSyst Co. has patents on this process and hopefully will do something practical with them someday.
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24 of 34
May 23, 2005
Here is a website showing the problems of Biomass Energy in Ireland. Ireland has been there, done that, and can't do it any more:

www.ipcc.ie/currentaction2005-14.html

Ireland is the "canary-in-the-coal-mine" for ALL Biomass wannabee countries.
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25 of 34
May 23, 2005
In Ireland, the peat bogs are disappearing, because all the trees have been cut down for firewood, building materials and paper.
They have resorted to burning the earth under their feet. Burnt peat reeks!
Is that where the remaining forested parts of the earth are headed? To burn the earth beneath our feet? We are consuming even renewable resources faster than they can be renewed, so how can a positive spin be put on burning up any natural resource, when it too will become extinct?
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26 of 34
July 27, 2005
wood-waste-to-ethanol plant to built on Vancouver Island

MEMSUSA (CanAm Ethanol One)

memsusa.com

biz.yahoo.com/bw/050613/135472.html?.v=1

biz.yahoo.com/bw/050622/225039.html?.v=1
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27 of 34
September 13, 2005
Greetings, what is the farmgate price farmers will receive for the biomass?
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28 of 34
April 7, 2006
It is clear that many of the adversarial postings to this article have been produced by well-intentioned folks, but it is obvious that many of them have a limited context.

The area in which we operate wood processing plants is full of waste wood piles that exist simply for lack of a viable use for the material. These piles are considered a liability because they produce acidic leachate.

The key element will be the development of technology of the appropriate scale to make use of this currently untapped feedstock. In my experience, deforestation is driven by a lack of appropriate scale wherein large facilities require unsustainable volumes of raw materials to stay viable. This we must avoid.
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29 of 34
June 3, 2006
I applaud your effort to use wood as a source for ethanal, both as a citizen who desires to see the U.S. free itself from foreign oil, and as one who desires to see forests for health and sustainability.

Many of the previous writers mention protecting "natural forests" from this use. They need to realize that our forests are in need of human intervention. U.S. forests are overstocked, vulnerable to fire, insects, and disease, and consisting of species that are indeed, not natural. Carefully thinning the forests and using the material, when feasible, is one of the tools managers can use to moving our forests towards a more natural state that is less prone to fire, insects and disease, and more aesthetically pleasing.
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30 of 34
January 8, 2007
Interesting info on Ireland. What is the population density of Ireland? and what is the population density of North America? and what is the population density of the Middle East? China? Point being whether one should use any particular renewable resource depends on where one is and how much of that resource is available. We now have 7 billion people on this planet, more than enough, and if that madness isn't stopped eventually the entire planet will indeed be turned into an ugly deforested desert - whether we burn the biomass or eat it. ergo, the intelligent use of wood for ethanol in North America will be ok - everything in moderation - except intelligence please.
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31 of 34
April 28, 2010
I manage a mill, where we process Western Redcedar to make shingles and shakes, I can address the concerns of some over deforestation, I know that at my mill we do not use ANY trees harvested for this purpose, only trees blown down by wind, fallen in landslides or damaged by fires, as well as debris left from logging operations.
This is 100% salvage work, and as far as sawdust for biofuels, it is my #1 nuisance at the mill, where to get rid of the stuff!
I produce tons of it every day, and I have to PAY to get rid of it to cogen fuel plants, or burn it.
I really, really, really, don't want to burn it, because it is wasteful and damaging to the environment, but if I could turn it into Ethanol, it is +++, get rid of my waste, produce a secondary product, create more jobs, reduce operating costs, reduce fossil fuel use, prevent the wasteful burning of this fuel AND the burning of fossil fuels...
How could it be bad in the opinion of some people, I don't know, I'm just a simple woodsman like Paul Bunion with a computer, maybe it's beyond my comprehension?
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32 of 34
May 7, 2010
@Guest user 0
Why not use it as a "carrier" of energy, because when you harvest this Southern Yellow Pine and produce lumber to make solar and geothermal heated homes, you are left with sawdust, wood chips and bark, which are not used in any part of construction, this must be disposed of in some way, why not do it in a producitve way?
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33 of 34
May 7, 2010
Also, trees which are harvested are typically processed to some extent in the woods.
The tops of the trees are cut off, limbs are removed, the roots are cut off, a large part of the tree is left in the forest to supply nutrients for future growth, ie., minerals, salts and other materials needed by new trees.
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34 of 34
May 7, 2010
It seems to me a lot of the negative comments about forestry are from people that just don't know what they are talking about, and don't care enough to find out before they try to stop anyone from doing anything to try to improve our situation, so why not just try nothing? Let's just maintain the status quo, forget solar, forget biofuels, drop the whole thing, because apparently it won't work anyways, we know because we thought about it for a few seconds before posting these responses...
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