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Altamont Wind Farm Suit to Move Ahead

February 28, 2005   |   12 Comments

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1 of 12
February 28, 2005
I think they are funded by the gas and oil companies.
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2 of 12
February 28, 2005
environMENTAL agitators are like LAWYERS:

They want money.

You look at any major settlement with an environMENTAL lawsuit and it has invariably resulted in damage to the businesses involved and a 'financial contribution' to the environMENTAL organization/or a related party as a 'de-facto' payoff to cease the legal attack.

This stuff is nothing more than a legally questionable shakedown/protection racket by the greenies to financially perpetuate their lifestyle.

It should be recognized as such and prosecuted accordingly.
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3 of 12
February 28, 2005
Do these environmentalists sueing really think that there is an environmental neutral way to make energy?
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4 of 12
March 1, 2005
The second commenter asks, 'Or are they going to get suckered on "clean" nukes the way the Sierra Club did in the 1960's.'

The large environmental institutions, including the Sierra Club, are in fact very actively promoting the expansion of wind power. Yes: suckers again, I'd say.
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5 of 12
March 1, 2005
The usual myths about windenergy.<br><br>
With proper placing the number of bird kills are negligable. The true bird killers are cars, cats, hunter and high rise buildings.
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The need for 100% backup is also nonsense. All powerplants are intemittent, nuclear and coal powerplants drop out of the net all the time. And much more suddenly than the smooth changes in wind. The backu-up is therfore already there. Several researches confirm that you can have 20% wind without only very limited extra backup (max 5%). Beyond this 20% you can use the storage capacity of hydroplants, make stronger connections in the European grid and in the long term use hydrogen as storage. <br><br>
A real waste of taxpayers money is the continuing subsidy on the use of fossile fuels and nuclear energy. <br><br>

See www.bwea.org www.windpower.org www.ewea.org www.yes2wind.com for the debunking of more anti-wind myths
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6 of 12
March 1, 2005
This is the kind of new sites being targeted:
www.iberica2000.org/Es/Articulo.asp?Id=1905

Take a look, and tell us again that Altamont is history. In reality Altamont is being extended all over the world. I have examples in bird reserves in Scotland and Spain, eagle ranges in Australia and Scotland, migration flyways in Japan and the Appalachian - you name it.

The wind industry, and global warming ecologists, think nothing of bird massacres in the name of money, jobs, or political power. And climate change is a lame excuse, as wind turbines are ineffective due to their randomly intermittent production which would cause blackouts if not backed up 24 hours a day by polluting conventional power plants.

A total waste of (taxpayers') money. And a long list of disastrous consequences for the environment (birdkills, fires, erosion, noise, water contamination, etc.) . See: www.iberica2000.org/Es/Articulo.asp?Id=1170 effects on people, nature
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7 of 12
March 1, 2005
The alomont windfarm turbines are antiques. They played an important role in development of windenergy, but are totally obsolete now. Why not look for a new site in the neighbourhood that is not on a migratory pathway?<br><br>

Why battle when you can co-operate?.
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8 of 12
March 1, 2005
To the cynical commentating about supposed money grubbing, oil-funded environmentalists.....Please. Legal expenses incurred to force the wind industry to take responsibility or the government to protect rare and endangered birds is not a fast track to riches. And need we point out how many renewable energy firms have financial backing from the carbon industry? Come on. Pick your enemies carefully.
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9 of 12
March 1, 2005
Unfortunately, the avian deaths at Altamont have been allowed and accepted for 20 years, creating a world famous black eye for the wind industry. Until the operators make a serious effort and progress in reducing avian deaths, advocates for wind energy/wind credits and subsidies - advocated by those supposed "environmental extremists" will be much more difficult. And please remember, enviro advocates are advocating for the benefit and growth of the wind energy; its YOUR gain. Watch who you condemn.
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10 of 12
March 4, 2005
I find it hard to believe that 100 birds have been killed let alone the numbers quoted here (881 to 1300) that's a big margin for one thing, and on the other hand who is keeping track of the carcasses ?, is this documented at some public place ? It would be funny to find out that the same folks crying about fossil fuels are trying to hurt this endeavour.
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11 of 12
March 4, 2005
Dear Readers, while we welcome your increasingly spirited discussion around many of the articles we write, we will continue to remove comments that do not, in any substantive way, add to the discourse or merely seek to promote other web sites. I thank you for keeping it clean and on topic. Sincerely, Oliver Strube, Publisher - RenewableEnergyAccess.com
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12 of 12
April 8, 2005
environmentalists should not sue environmentalists. This will allow their true enemies to "divide and conquer"
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