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Clean Energy - A Few Philosophic and Political Aspects

By Craig Shields
December 14, 2009   |   8 Comments

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GA
December 15, 2009
Campaign reform is a tough hill to climb. I'm hoping that the aggregate pressure of the populace demanding more earth-friendly (and ideally, economical) solutions will force the hand of vested interested and political will towards a more sustainable future.
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December 15, 2009
Hi Craig, your musings land up exactly where mine typically do -- at the shores of campaign finance reform. Publicly funded elections -- as pushed by Common Cause. Some also talk about a campaign to get publicly traded companies to institute by laws to include the magic words in their mission statements "to pursue profit but not where doing so would endanger environment and public interest" (my paraphrase). Some have backed a campaign like that. We do need to do a structural change in the way corporations are running our legislation.
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December 15, 2009
Thanks, Anne. What you write there about corporate mission statements is interesting. Of course, the question then becomes how that translates to real-world behavior.

And thanks to GA. You're right that, in the most high-profile cases of corporate malfeasance, public outcry "forces the hand" of vested interests. When it was revealed, for instance, that Beechnut's apple juice contained only chemicals and water (no apples), sales stats understandably nosedived. But many of these acts are more subtle -- and most of this stuff goes undetected.
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December 15, 2009
Craig, you're not off base. I however do agree with GA, it's an uphill battle. Here in FL, the clean energy bill that's again on the table for the upcoming session, is either getting offshore oil drilling thrown in or it's not going through.

I do have to say this: clearly there are signs that a substantial but failed movement toward renewable energy occurred in the late 70's. I was not old enough to experience this activity and the public reaction/perception. Today, I am very pleased at the level of attention and support that renewable energy and sustainability is getting. I spoke just today to a group of legislators and the lights are definitely on. I am finding general support for our company's plans under almost every rock I turn.

I hope all the renewable energy community's efforts aren't in vain this time around.
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December 16, 2009
Craig: "The only reason that we cling to fossil fuels is a political system that has simply ceased to work for the vast majority of the people it supposedly serves."

Not so, Craig. It is one reason, but more prevalent is the root of all business, not just the energy business: cost.

When the cost for renewables comes down to equal to or better than fossil fuels, the build-out of renewables will skyrocket. The vital aspect for our economy is that the costs must be true - not subsidized by the ratepayers/taxpayers. Only when the free market system chooses renewables based on cost rather than emotion or flawed science will we get the quantum shift in our energy supply.
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December 16, 2009
Astute comments, Paul; thank you. I would say that while you're right in what you say about cost, there are additional factors we need to bear in mind, of which two are:

1) We subsidize things like corn ethanol (the only reason it exists) at the behest of powerful corn-belt senators. What would happen if those subsidies could go to something that made a bit more sense environmentally -- you pick it -- solar thermal, wind, etc?

2) As I frequently point out, our world does not even begin to pay the true cost of fossil fuels. This is the "externalities" argument that I'm trumpeting wherever possible, e.g., here: http://www.2greenenergy.com/2051/2051/
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December 17, 2009
Craig,
Coal and Oil have been there for some time hence the leaders in these industries running most of world's energy are powerful. It becomes increasingly clear to common sense that continuing to rely on these sources does bad to humanity that needs to invest in other soruces. The main question is: if the decision of when and how we invest relies on ROI then we will be waitng for energy production costs to decrease and, until then, the existing strong players will dictate their policies, one way or another.
The question is what is the expected "Return"? If it is a simple profit generation then we cannot solve this problem. If it is the concern that humanity faces a very difficult future then the decision should rely entirely on society, on the Governments, the states - democratically elected. Let decisions on energy investments pass therefore in direct control and, why not, ownership of society and not the private sector.
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December 17, 2009
Stefanos - if private sector ownership is passed to society (a.k.a. government), you get socialism. With socialism, incentive is lost because good production is not rewarded. Why would anyone work hard, investing time and money, for nothing? If they get paid the same whether they work hard or not, where is the incentive to work hard? I think this is obvious in communist and socialist countries.

Capitalism and democracy works. If there is opportunity, people will take it. It has worked in the US for over 200 years, raising the standard of living in the US such that it has become the most desired place to live in the world - as evidenced by immigration (legal and illegal) in here.

When renewables develop to the point of cost parity with oil and gas, those 'powerful' industries and new ones will become powerful in renewables. Those that are developing renewables are working towards that parity, because there is the opportunity to profit in it - that is where the incentive is, and it would not, could not, come from government ownership.
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